http://www.bcacricket.org/2010/articles.php?link=2893
Principal of the University of West Indies, Cave Hill Campus, Professor Sir Hilary Beckles, who is also a director of the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB), reckons that former Jamaica Prime Minister, The Honourable PJ Patterson, could help end a long-standing impasse between former captain and ace opening batsman Chris Gayle and the WICB.
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Beckles: PJ Patterson can help end Gayle-WICB impasse
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mapoui
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wat is this! 'Sir' Hillary relents re Gayle?
so Gayle is no more Dudus, an un-revolutionary biatch, unfit to rub shoulders with the COTR?
or wat is this now dat 'Sir' Hillary is up to?
( I love this: westindians proudly call Beckles 'Sir' Hillary! isnt dat sweet..sir Lancelot in king arthurs hothouse, replete with black skin, sugar cane, mango, jamoon and pom se tay....
who hid the whips and chains dem.....
??? 
)
so Gayle is no more Dudus, an un-revolutionary biatch, unfit to rub shoulders with the COTR?
or wat is this now dat 'Sir' Hillary is up to?
( I love this: westindians proudly call Beckles 'Sir' Hillary! isnt dat sweet..sir Lancelot in king arthurs hothouse, replete with black skin, sugar cane, mango, jamoon and pom se tay....
who hid the whips and chains dem.....
??? )
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mapoui wrote:wat is this! 'Sir' Hillary relents re Gayle?
so Gayle is no more Dudus, an un-revolutionary biatch, unfit to rub shoulders with the COTR?
or wat is this now dat 'Sir' Hillary is up to?
( I love this: westindians proudly call Beckles 'Sir' Hillary! isnt dat sweet...a hot house sir Lancelot in king arthurs hothouse, replete with black skin, sugar cane, mango, jamoon and pom se tay....
who hide the whips and chains dem.....
Oh you notice sir Hillary , since he spoke as a civilian has opted out of the lime light ,
now to offer his words of wisdom . That guy is one of the phoniest individuals who
classifies himself West Indian first , which is laughable .
I wonder if he read a speech written by the CEO , who is one of the biggest cow manure
salesmen I have seen in a long time . I keep looking at what he has accomplished as CEO
in his tenure in Office and cant find anything , the President also close to 5 years.
Ken Gordon in his last speech left them golden spoons to follow , if they did we wouldn't be
in the mess we are now ..LICA . WICB and Guyana .
The Chinese has a saying water rises to its own level ....when you have idiots what else
can one expect but fools and failures . Its strange how failures are welcomed at the WICB .
Shouldn't be surprising since WICB are lead by two political failures .
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Remember that Patterson report back in 2007? The WICB completely disregarded those recommendations, and continue to behave like dictators who are accountable to no one....
Maybe now's the time to implement those recommendations:
http://www.ttcricketboard.com/download2 ... ricket.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The Committee recommends that:
"1. A new governance structure be established to be named Cricket West Indies (CWI) which will be a two-tiered system comprising:
"(a) Cricket West Indies Council which will consist of 23 members, representative of a wide cross section of stakeholders and will determine policies and strategies and provide guidance for the development of West Indies Cricket. It will appoint the President, VicePresident and Executive Directors, not appointed by the Territorial Boards.
"(b) Cricket West Indies Board, which will consist of 15 members – President, Vice-President and 13 Directors (6 nominated by the Territorial Boards; a Cricket Director appointed on the basis of nominations from the Territorial Boards, past players, WIPA, WCO and WSA; one director representing CARICOM; one director selected on the basis of nominations by WIPA; 3 chosen
for their special expertise in operational areas, and the Chief Executive Officer) and will be responsible for the executive management of the day-today affairs of the entity."
Part 7, Recommendations and Conclusion, 23. Recommendations, p113.
"While accepting the value of representation from the constituent parts of the shareholder group, there must be a proper balance in order to guarantee the greater participation of the whole. Two representatives from each Territorial Board not only makes the structure unwieldy, but gives a lopsided territorial dominance in governance. This cannot be justified as the six Cricket Boards are not the only owners or investors in West Indies Cricket."
16. Cricket West Indies - A New Governance Structure, 16.5.1, p84.
' “Investment in West Indies Cricket comes from a wide range of stakeholders. Membership of WICB should reflect this fact and should be expanded to include all stakeholders. These are:
1. Governments – which provide substantial financial capital for the game with their direct investment 85 having increased to huge proportions in preparation for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2007.
2. Players – who provide the human capital for the game.
3. Past Players – whose expertise is an important asset to West Indies Cricket and whose achievements give West Indies Cricket significant and special international standing.
4. Business community – who provide investment and sponsorship capital.
5. Media – who provide the promotional capital.
6. UWI and Tertiary Institutions which provide intellectual capital.
7. The Tourism Sector – to reflect the significance of the game to regional tourism and the investment by the tourism sector in promotion of the game.”
'To the above, we would add the schools and cricket clubs that nurture and hone the skills and technique of our players. Nor dare we omit the West Indian people who have made their greatest single cultural investment in cricket. Their investment has yielded a priceless public asset and its preservation should be seen as a prescriptive right.'
As above, pp84-5
Maybe now's the time to implement those recommendations:
http://www.ttcricketboard.com/download2 ... ricket.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The Committee recommends that:
"1. A new governance structure be established to be named Cricket West Indies (CWI) which will be a two-tiered system comprising:
"(a) Cricket West Indies Council which will consist of 23 members, representative of a wide cross section of stakeholders and will determine policies and strategies and provide guidance for the development of West Indies Cricket. It will appoint the President, VicePresident and Executive Directors, not appointed by the Territorial Boards.
"(b) Cricket West Indies Board, which will consist of 15 members – President, Vice-President and 13 Directors (6 nominated by the Territorial Boards; a Cricket Director appointed on the basis of nominations from the Territorial Boards, past players, WIPA, WCO and WSA; one director representing CARICOM; one director selected on the basis of nominations by WIPA; 3 chosen
for their special expertise in operational areas, and the Chief Executive Officer) and will be responsible for the executive management of the day-today affairs of the entity."
Part 7, Recommendations and Conclusion, 23. Recommendations, p113.
"While accepting the value of representation from the constituent parts of the shareholder group, there must be a proper balance in order to guarantee the greater participation of the whole. Two representatives from each Territorial Board not only makes the structure unwieldy, but gives a lopsided territorial dominance in governance. This cannot be justified as the six Cricket Boards are not the only owners or investors in West Indies Cricket."
16. Cricket West Indies - A New Governance Structure, 16.5.1, p84.
' “Investment in West Indies Cricket comes from a wide range of stakeholders. Membership of WICB should reflect this fact and should be expanded to include all stakeholders. These are:
1. Governments – which provide substantial financial capital for the game with their direct investment 85 having increased to huge proportions in preparation for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2007.
2. Players – who provide the human capital for the game.
3. Past Players – whose expertise is an important asset to West Indies Cricket and whose achievements give West Indies Cricket significant and special international standing.
4. Business community – who provide investment and sponsorship capital.
5. Media – who provide the promotional capital.
6. UWI and Tertiary Institutions which provide intellectual capital.
7. The Tourism Sector – to reflect the significance of the game to regional tourism and the investment by the tourism sector in promotion of the game.”
'To the above, we would add the schools and cricket clubs that nurture and hone the skills and technique of our players. Nor dare we omit the West Indian people who have made their greatest single cultural investment in cricket. Their investment has yielded a priceless public asset and its preservation should be seen as a prescriptive right.'
As above, pp84-5
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And this is the structure of the new Cricket West Indies (CWI), as proposed by the Patterson Report....
"16.6 Cricket West Indies Council
(a) “West Indies cricket belongs to the people of the West Indies”. That imperative has guided our deliberations and conclusions. It is reflected in our concept of the Cricket West Indies Council.
(b) The Council will be drawn from a wide range of stakeholders in West Indies cricket. It will meet once a year to review the state of West Indies cricket. The Council will settle the framework and approve broad strategies for the game in the Region. It will receive an
annual report, with relevant financial statements prepared by the Executive. 86
(c) The Council will elect the President, the Vice President and three Directors to the executive directorate, who are not nominated by Territorial Boards and other designated bodies as of right.
(d) The Council will be drawn from the following stakeholders:
• Territorial Cricket Boards (6)
• Chairman, CARICOM Bureau of the Council for Human and Social Development (1) — this will ensure the inputs from Ministers of Education, Health and Sports within the Region.
• CARICOM (2), one of whom will be a nominee of the Prime Ministerial Sub-Committee on Cricket, and the other chosen by Heads of Government as Board Representative.
• WIPA (1)
• Former Players (2)
• The Caribbean Private Sector – CAIC (1)
• Caribbean Labour Congress (1)
• Caribbean Hotel & Tourism Association (1)
• The Caribbean Media Corporation (1)
• Association of Caribbean Media Workers (1)
• West Indies Cricket Journalists and Commentators (1)
• West Indies Women’s Cricket Organisation (1)
• West Indies Cricket Umpires Association (1)
• University of the West Indies (1)
• Association of the Caribbean Tertiary Institutions (1)
• CARICOM Youth Representative (1)
"The President and Directors of the executive arm will be full members of the Council, which the President will chair."
As above, pp85-6
"16.6 Cricket West Indies Council
(a) “West Indies cricket belongs to the people of the West Indies”. That imperative has guided our deliberations and conclusions. It is reflected in our concept of the Cricket West Indies Council.
(b) The Council will be drawn from a wide range of stakeholders in West Indies cricket. It will meet once a year to review the state of West Indies cricket. The Council will settle the framework and approve broad strategies for the game in the Region. It will receive an
annual report, with relevant financial statements prepared by the Executive. 86
(c) The Council will elect the President, the Vice President and three Directors to the executive directorate, who are not nominated by Territorial Boards and other designated bodies as of right.
(d) The Council will be drawn from the following stakeholders:
• Territorial Cricket Boards (6)
• Chairman, CARICOM Bureau of the Council for Human and Social Development (1) — this will ensure the inputs from Ministers of Education, Health and Sports within the Region.
• CARICOM (2), one of whom will be a nominee of the Prime Ministerial Sub-Committee on Cricket, and the other chosen by Heads of Government as Board Representative.
• WIPA (1)
• Former Players (2)
• The Caribbean Private Sector – CAIC (1)
• Caribbean Labour Congress (1)
• Caribbean Hotel & Tourism Association (1)
• The Caribbean Media Corporation (1)
• Association of Caribbean Media Workers (1)
• West Indies Cricket Journalists and Commentators (1)
• West Indies Women’s Cricket Organisation (1)
• West Indies Cricket Umpires Association (1)
• University of the West Indies (1)
• Association of the Caribbean Tertiary Institutions (1)
• CARICOM Youth Representative (1)
"The President and Directors of the executive arm will be full members of the Council, which the President will chair."
As above, pp85-6
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mapoui
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it is Beckles who raised the Gayle issue to the clouds with his Dudus Coke analysis.
there could have been little more irrespponsible, ever, in westindies cricket, for a 'leader' to do that to the game.
it is clear that it was part of a coordinated effort by the wicb/beckles and their cohort to set up the youth to cleave onto the wicb, to sacrifice themselves for the 'westindies' when it is the board they would have would been sacrificing for.
Beckles is unconscionable, a serious opportunist and exploiter. he is the intellectual centre of this piece, the one from whose brains it all flows, the mental mentor behind hillaire and 'hunter'
now with Simpsons entry, on top of whats going on in Guyana, the utter failure of Shillingford in the shambles of Leeward Islands cricket, the ridiculous sammy captaincy and illegal and bad-minded treatment of gayle, its all goign south for the wicb in a hurry.
so here is Beckles again in damage control. he is willing to let Dudus Gayle back in, and has prepared a way for the compromise to be made, by introducing Patterson as mediator. it is also a way to placate Patterson whose work has been ignored by the board.
all this is, is the sacrifice of one plank of wicb plans for the maintainance of the whole of what they are about. they will give us Gayle to help us forget he rest of hat they have done so they can go ahead with their wreckage of westindies cricket
there could have been little more irrespponsible, ever, in westindies cricket, for a 'leader' to do that to the game.
it is clear that it was part of a coordinated effort by the wicb/beckles and their cohort to set up the youth to cleave onto the wicb, to sacrifice themselves for the 'westindies' when it is the board they would have would been sacrificing for.
Beckles is unconscionable, a serious opportunist and exploiter. he is the intellectual centre of this piece, the one from whose brains it all flows, the mental mentor behind hillaire and 'hunter'
now with Simpsons entry, on top of whats going on in Guyana, the utter failure of Shillingford in the shambles of Leeward Islands cricket, the ridiculous sammy captaincy and illegal and bad-minded treatment of gayle, its all goign south for the wicb in a hurry.
so here is Beckles again in damage control. he is willing to let Dudus Gayle back in, and has prepared a way for the compromise to be made, by introducing Patterson as mediator. it is also a way to placate Patterson whose work has been ignored by the board.
all this is, is the sacrifice of one plank of wicb plans for the maintainance of the whole of what they are about. they will give us Gayle to help us forget he rest of hat they have done so they can go ahead with their wreckage of westindies cricket
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The only way we can get rid of people like Hunte is to embrace the Patterson Report's proposed structure, which would remove the elitist club domination of Caribbean cricket....
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The Patterson report or bust...either implement the recommendations of the Patterson report or the West Indies will be busted into individual countries. Lets see if the wicb gets the message...
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Until the Crime Wave Inc are reformed as outlined above by Patterson then this sorry west indies team will limp from embarrassing defeat to embarrassing defeat.mikesiva wrote:Remember that Patterson report back in 2007? The WICB completely disregarded those recommendations, and continue to behave like dictators who are accountable to no one....
Maybe now's the time to implement those recommendations:
http://www.ttcricketboard.com/download2 ... ricket.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"The Committee recommends that:
"1. A new governance structure be established to be named Cricket West Indies (CWI) which will be a two-tiered system comprising:
"(a) Cricket West Indies Council which will consist of 23 members, representative of a wide cross section of stakeholders and will determine policies and strategies and provide guidance for the development of West Indies Cricket. It will appoint the President, VicePresident and Executive Directors, not appointed by the Territorial Boards.
"(b) Cricket West Indies Board, which will consist of 15 members – President, Vice-President and 13 Directors (6 nominated by the Territorial Boards; a Cricket Director appointed on the basis of nominations from the Territorial Boards, past players, WIPA, WCO and WSA; one director representing CARICOM; one director selected on the basis of nominations by WIPA; 3 chosen
for their special expertise in operational areas, and the Chief Executive Officer) and will be responsible for the executive management of the day-today affairs of the entity."
Part 7, Recommendations and Conclusion, 23. Recommendations, p113.
"While accepting the value of representation from the constituent parts of the shareholder group, there must be a proper balance in order to guarantee the greater participation of the whole. Two representatives from each Territorial Board not only makes the structure unwieldy, but gives a lopsided territorial dominance in governance. This cannot be justified as the six Cricket Boards are not the only owners or investors in West Indies Cricket."
16. Cricket West Indies - A New Governance Structure, 16.5.1, p84.
' “Investment in West Indies Cricket comes from a wide range of stakeholders. Membership of WICB should reflect this fact and should be expanded to include all stakeholders. These are:
1. Governments – which provide substantial financial capital for the game with their direct investment 85 having increased to huge proportions in preparation for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2007.
2. Players – who provide the human capital for the game.
3. Past Players – whose expertise is an important asset to West Indies Cricket and whose achievements give West Indies Cricket significant and special international standing.
4. Business community – who provide investment and sponsorship capital.
5. Media – who provide the promotional capital.
6. UWI and Tertiary Institutions which provide intellectual capital.
7. The Tourism Sector – to reflect the significance of the game to regional tourism and the investment by the tourism sector in promotion of the game.”
'To the above, we would add the schools and cricket clubs that nurture and hone the skills and technique of our players. Nor dare we omit the West Indian people who have made their greatest single cultural investment in cricket. Their investment has yielded a priceless public asset and its preservation should be seen as a prescriptive right.'
As above, pp84-5
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Well, it's 10 years later and at least they've changed the name, but .....16. Cricket West Indies - A New Governance Structure, 16.5.1, p84.
I remember BE was made to retract a tweet about CHG's retirement circa 2013/4, so most likely his sensitivites are hightened in, what is for him, a second tweetgate. Or he's like that all the time.
The crime bosses continued refusal to follow process and the 6 regional boards silence exemplifys the stark comparison between a national who is protected by a constitution to an employee who is having his contract violated. Imho, Bravo is playing the long game, BE wont be around forever, his is due a large payout so to take the tweet down would weaken his case, without any need to.
Squabbling over personal issues while the rest of the cricket world attend a gala event should indicate to any objective observer that 9th, 8th, 9th is not an unfair reflection of Caribbean crickets position in the games pecking order.
The Islands could do no worse but my argument was always the 1st one. Self determination in the 21st centuiry over oppressive victorian ideologies and the politrickans they are peddled by.
Bravos decision to turn down their contract was the catalyst to this impasse which is flimsily justifeid by double speak. “If you continue to keep giving him an A contract then what is the motivation to get better? He has been on an A contract and he hasn’t done well.”
https://www.barbadostoday.bb/2017/06/17 ... s-cameron/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"
Applying the same criteria to the unchanged ODI squad to face india gives us " If you continue to keep picking them all after continued failures then what is their motivation to get better, the entire squad has been picked and have not done well "
