Our pitches are not good either....Croft

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When I started knowing about regional and international cricket, as played in the Caribbean, early 60s, there were four main cricket grounds. In Guyana, there was Bourda, while T&T had the Queen’s Park Oval. Barbados had the Kensington Oval, while Jamaica had Sabina Park.
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we do need quality pitches that do somethng to help the bowlers. and in helping the bowlers we help the batsmen too, for they must learn how to cope and score.

watching Gayle get out 3 consecutives times bowled, dragging balls into his wicket by never being in place to make the shot he chose is sickening.

Gayle simply never adjusts! its incredible! he has no footwork, never puts himself in proper postion to make his shots and the saffies may have found a way to make him pay all the time.

and Gayle goes out there every time, gets out for 14, 20, 50 then go out to field for huge Saffie totals. not once has he made the Safies pay this series. he has taken it all and did not determine to make the saffies field and field and field in return.

disgusting! gayle must think this is some kind of joke!

our batsmen cant bat and thats because they have nothing to play on but 'concrete!'
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Muphry's law eh? :)
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" Indian skipper Rahul Dravid believes crucial World Cup games could be decided on how one settled batsman performs if pitches played slow in the Caribbean.

"The wickets will remain a bit slow," he said. "In tighter and closer games, the one batsman who gets set on these wickets will have to go on.

"It is not going to be easy for a new batsman to come in and rotate the strike easily.

"In this tournament we will see (only) one or two big scores in each innings.

He felt conditions could be the same in Port-of-Spain, Trinidad where India play their group B matches against 1996 winners Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and debutants Bermuda.

"Trinidad can't be very different from this," he said. " Guyana Chronicle 2007
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Steve Waugh may have some worries about his own attack surrounding an underdone Glenn McGrath heading into the third Test, but it is the future of West Indian bowling that seems to be causing him more grave concern.

While Waugh said McGrath would be "a little bit vulnerable", he was relying on the veteran's capacity to pick himself up for a Test to see him through.

"He's a great performer and he'll lift for the Test match," Waugh said of the man who has dismissed Lara 13 times, twice as often as any other bowler.

The Australian captain's concerns for his own team quickly turned to the more weighty question of whether the West Indies could again see the likes of the bowling attacks that made the Caribbean dominant for two decades from the mid-1970s.

While the Barbados pitch has a reputation for being hard and bouncy - which looks set to lead Australia's selectors to playing four quicks for the first time in 11 years - Waugh was mystified as to why he has so far seen only slow and soft pitches that offered little encouragement for pace bowlers.

"The wickets have been really slow and it's a major problem over here for cricket in the Caribbean," he said. "They're not going to produce any quick bowlers if they keep putting pitches out like that. There's no encouragement for them, it's too much hard work.

"They are very slow and there's no bounce and there is nothing there for the quicks. It's too much in favour of the batsmen."

Justin Langer, on his third tour here, shared his captain's grim outlook and said the West Indies' 5-0 whitewash defeat in Australia had shown that it was not only the region's young bowlers who were suffering.

"For their batters it would be more beneficial for them to play on harder, bouncier wickets as well," Langer said. "We saw in Australia last time they had a bit of trouble when the ball got [up high] on our wickets.

"For the bigger picture of West Indies cricket, I think it would be more advantageous for them to play on bouncier, quicker wickets."

Langer noted the cricket conversation that is the heartbeat of the Caribbean had lately contained much criticism of local bowlers, but that much of it did not take conditions into account.

"What people have to remember is they are playing on very flat wickets," he said. "They've got some good variety but the wickets they are bowling on, I think it's very hard work."

The West Indies seem likely to field an attack of four pacemen as they try to stop Australia taking a winning 3-0 lead this week, with Mervyn Dillon and Vasbert Drakes expected to be joined by exciting newcomer Tino Best and Jermaine Lawson, who missed the second Test with chickenpox. "

I cant remember the date of this Guyana Chronicle article but in the time since these observations were made Australia have produced many quicks, BWI not so much...

Slow bowlers still dominate in the PCL and Super 50 and are still found wanting at international level but there was not single batsman in the ODI squad who could play short pitched bowling.

Without improved playing surfaces dot, dot, dot 6 and out batsmen will remain the norm in regional cricket..the good news is T20 is the only format that generates finance anyway.
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" The pitches in the Caribbean are terrible and that’s why when we go overseas and the pitches are bouncing, the players are all at sea. We need to get back quick, bouncy pitches in the Caribbean. It will make better players and fast bowlers.”

Windies batsmen struggled against the short ball on the bouncy pitches in New Zealand and failed to win a single match in the series.

They were whitewashed in the two-match Test series and the subsequent three-match one-day series, before losing two of the three Twenty20s. The second match was washed out.

“I didn’t watch much of it (tour). It is too painful to watch,” said Sir Curtly, who served as West Indies bowling coach until being replaced 19 months ago.

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While Curtly and other true WI fans were in pain and avoided watching the disaster in motion, the dwellers were at the trough rejoicing with the infamous chant, "FORWARD" as they licked each other balls!


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Imagine Wimbledon asking Federer to play on concrete then watching on from afar as the *fans castigate him for shitty perfomances.

Or Idris Elba performing in theatre with no script and a large hole in the centre of the stage.

How about Real Madrid playing football in a pig pen, at feeding time.

These stink biayatches have been aware of this problem for a long as the team has sucked, if they insist ( as they have done ) it is Governments responsibility to maintain these grounds then it should be obvious they are about as much cuss toadians of the game as Obama.

Mek dem lik sweaty balls yes, I hope they catch gastro sumting soh.
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