With Bangladesh's second Test win in Sri Lanka, they're narrowing the gap on the West Indies. And Sri Lanka are in decline, and will soon reach our level.
The test rankings. ...
1) India 121
2) Australia 109
3) South Africa 107
4) England 101
5) New Zealand 98
6) Pakistan 97
The growing gap...and then:
7) Sri Lanka 90
8 ) west indies 69
9) Bangladesh 66
They are not far away from us.
There is a de facto two tier system already in test cricket.
The top six....
India
Australia
South Africa
England
Pakistan
New Zealand
The bottom four. ....
Sri Lanka
West indies
Bangladesh
Zimbabwe
Give Afghanistan and Ireland test status and formalise the two tier system. The bottom teams can give the top six a fight at home only so IMHO that's how our fixtures should be in future. Play home and away against the bottom six and play at home only against the top six.
WI should play second-tier Test cricket....
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LOL massa mike trying to dictate to our cricket again? 
BD have improved yes but really who have they beaten? They've drawn a series against an England side who are utterly clueless against spin in the sub-continent and they've drawn a series against a weak SL side in similar conditions to that of their own. When they went to NZ they got beat 2-0, and they also lost easily in India. So let's not act like they are some "all conquering" team or something. We could have easily won the series against Pakistan. Now with the wukless seniors getting dumped and new talent emerging, I think we can look forward and be hopeful that our test team will have better days 
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BD have improved yes but really who have they beaten? They've drawn a series against an England side who are utterly clueless against spin in the sub-continent and they've drawn a series against a weak SL side in similar conditions to that of their own. When they went to NZ they got beat 2-0, and they also lost easily in India. So let's not act like they are some "all conquering" team or something. We could have easily won the series against Pakistan. Now with the wukless seniors getting dumped and new talent emerging, I think we can look forward and be hopeful that our test team will have better days .
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POOgley!!!..how mi didn't smell your stench quickly dis time? You using air freshener now? 
And I know you bitter because Shiv get sacked and Johnson will soon be dumped soon but doan worry stinky!!..Hetty soon get a call and if Singh fix up him form he might get a chance too .
Our problem has always been the STRUCTURE within our cricket. Now the board own the sticky wicket and have plans on creating a boys and girls academy on that facility so things can only improve in the years to come. We in di PM will continue to push for progressive change!!!..unlike your good fi nothing rass who try fi dictate to we from your arm chair in America!!!..I hope Trump send your smelly rass HOME!!!
And I know you bitter because Shiv get sacked and Johnson will soon be dumped soon but doan worry stinky!!..Hetty soon get a call and if Singh fix up him form he might get a chance too
.Our problem has always been the STRUCTURE within our cricket. Now the board own the sticky wicket and have plans on creating a boys and girls academy on that facility so things can only improve in the years to come. We in di PM will continue to push for progressive change!!!..unlike your good fi nothing rass who try fi dictate to we from your arm chair in America!!!..I hope Trump send your smelly rass HOME!!!
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Beaten at home by Bangladesh in a Test series, lost to Ireland and Afghanistan in competitive match's, failed to qualify for the CL trophy, must play associates to qualify for the next ODI World cup - semantics lol:
Structure is, and always will be, the sole responsibility of the BWICBC, unless like T20, they sell up. The failure in the structure and BWICBC’s resultant chaotic operation is NOT, and will never be, the responsibility of the players, that honour falls alone to the many administrators who have presided over the mess on offer.
This failure however, has in no way hampered the growth of the corporation over its 87 years of existence or the last 25 years of defeats and dwindling interest, a growth which is clearly at odds with the realities of ‘competitive sport. ICC subsidies have obviously protected them from the consequences of their many failures and have also gone a long way to removing the need for a competitive team. As long as the illusion the team will improve once they are given greater investment can be sustained this will remain so. BUT, the observer must conveniently forget the BWICBC have been in receipt of guaranteed income from broadcast rights (which are generated in india. aus and england,) and ICC ‘development funding throughout the same period.
So, the structure has been poor while the bureaucracy has flourished!
While we are told “ all the regional governments – except Jamaica - are begging to host BWICBC cricket “. Then we see, after being ‘given Stanford’s ground by the Antiguan government that they have access to more than 15 international stadiums - free of charge, they remain exempt from custom taxes or duty charges throughout the region and they maliciously extinguish the careers of every batsmen to average over 40 in Test cricket in the last 25 yrs.
Darren Bravo’s exclusion without due process would suggest they are in no mood to change their MO. Relocating to sticky wicket and scheduling more games on a featherbed will not bring about a resolution to this type of behaviour or improve the inadequate structure, it simply highlights a major issue and the many visual impairments to it.
Good pitches are a basic ingredient of a good structure! NONE of the regions ‘privately owned pitches produce the players required to move BWICBC from 9th place in a 10 team competition. “Pitches are not BWICBC’s responsibility” is the often heard self-serving response. And here the buccaneers suitability for the work is revealed and the limits to their ambitions laid bare…….
lol: Structure is, and always will be, the sole responsibility of the BWICBC, unless like T20, they sell up. The failure in the structure and BWICBC’s resultant chaotic operation is NOT, and will never be, the responsibility of the players, that honour falls alone to the many administrators who have presided over the mess on offer.
This failure however, has in no way hampered the growth of the corporation over its 87 years of existence or the last 25 years of defeats and dwindling interest, a growth which is clearly at odds with the realities of ‘competitive sport. ICC subsidies have obviously protected them from the consequences of their many failures and have also gone a long way to removing the need for a competitive team. As long as the illusion the team will improve once they are given greater investment can be sustained this will remain so. BUT, the observer must conveniently forget the BWICBC have been in receipt of guaranteed income from broadcast rights (which are generated in india. aus and england,) and ICC ‘development funding throughout the same period.
So, the structure has been poor while the bureaucracy has flourished!
While we are told “ all the regional governments – except Jamaica - are begging to host BWICBC cricket “. Then we see, after being ‘given Stanford’s ground by the Antiguan government that they have access to more than 15 international stadiums - free of charge, they remain exempt from custom taxes or duty charges throughout the region and they maliciously extinguish the careers of every batsmen to average over 40 in Test cricket in the last 25 yrs.
Darren Bravo’s exclusion without due process would suggest they are in no mood to change their MO. Relocating to sticky wicket and scheduling more games on a featherbed will not bring about a resolution to this type of behaviour or improve the inadequate structure, it simply highlights a major issue and the many visual impairments to it.
Good pitches are a basic ingredient of a good structure! NONE of the regions ‘privately owned pitches produce the players required to move BWICBC from 9th place in a 10 team competition. “Pitches are not BWICBC’s responsibility” is the often heard self-serving response. And here the buccaneers suitability for the work is revealed and the limits to their ambitions laid bare…….
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….to further highlight the BWICBC’s inability to arrest the second class nature of it's product or create international cricketers I'll list what I consider the basic components needed for a good on field product. Infrastructure.
Professional playing facilities in regional competitions – to exclude featherbeds,1st day turners or tracks that break up after 1 session of play – to include, sight screens, covers and competent ground staff, indoor and outdoor training facilities for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket, professional medical & fitness staff for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket, qualified competent video analysts with industry standard equipment for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket.
International standard umpires in both S50 and PCL competitions, to be aided by a digital review system in both PCL and S50 cricket, a code of conduct for all contactors and employees, coupled with a transparent disciplinary procedure for ALL personal, adequate food, travel and accommodation arrangements for every squad in PCL and S50 cricket – which is not to be confused with the expense allowances and other benefits that come with a role in one of the 6 territories administrative depts, impartial players union, an end to player victimisation, published accounts yearly, all other relevant financial costing’s.
Having observed events for any amount of time it should be clear to you that most of these items are beyond the BWICBC so the best that could be hoped for is a series of events that lead to the appointment of “the best person for the job”, and the subsequent arrival of the likes of Law, radford and pYbUs *To show us how to win, historical and cultural ignorance aside.
This series of events however, show the buccaneers expedient nature in general but more specifically the true depth of their commitment to the people of region. I've always found the claim they are a regional institution laughable but considering the absence of spectators at it's events that becomes a bit more of an insult imho but there you go. With more ICC subsidy to come, 9th out of 10 is just as good as 3rd or 4th so what reason do they have to change……they might as well just continue promising the future .... or as you call it - letting youngsters learn on the job.
* Begs the question what the islands formerly known as the british west indies gain by playing cricket together. To win, make the corporation money, or share a mutual experience ? Formerly we know the primary motivation of the players was to be seen as equal, if not better than, the colonials and the western world in general, but that is a 20th century argument.
So today we have a set of players with no historical, cultural or social commitment to constructs of the british empire or the 19th century thought process' they come with. Personal beliefs that were arguably the essential ingredient of all BWI winning teams. The current cricketing landscape on the other hand means today's players are now more commodities than diplomat / independent contractors with multiple options, free of the social constraints of yesteryear. So BWICBC will now have to do something they've never achieved in all their history - step their game up.
Don't hold your breath.
Professional playing facilities in regional competitions – to exclude featherbeds,1st day turners or tracks that break up after 1 session of play – to include, sight screens, covers and competent ground staff, indoor and outdoor training facilities for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket, professional medical & fitness staff for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket, qualified competent video analysts with industry standard equipment for all teams in PCL and S50 cricket.
International standard umpires in both S50 and PCL competitions, to be aided by a digital review system in both PCL and S50 cricket, a code of conduct for all contactors and employees, coupled with a transparent disciplinary procedure for ALL personal, adequate food, travel and accommodation arrangements for every squad in PCL and S50 cricket – which is not to be confused with the expense allowances and other benefits that come with a role in one of the 6 territories administrative depts, impartial players union, an end to player victimisation, published accounts yearly, all other relevant financial costing’s.
Having observed events for any amount of time it should be clear to you that most of these items are beyond the BWICBC so the best that could be hoped for is a series of events that lead to the appointment of “the best person for the job”, and the subsequent arrival of the likes of Law, radford and pYbUs *To show us how to win, historical and cultural ignorance aside.
This series of events however, show the buccaneers expedient nature in general but more specifically the true depth of their commitment to the people of region. I've always found the claim they are a regional institution laughable but considering the absence of spectators at it's events that becomes a bit more of an insult imho but there you go. With more ICC subsidy to come, 9th out of 10 is just as good as 3rd or 4th so what reason do they have to change……they might as well just continue promising the future .... or as you call it - letting youngsters learn on the job.
* Begs the question what the islands formerly known as the british west indies gain by playing cricket together. To win, make the corporation money, or share a mutual experience ? Formerly we know the primary motivation of the players was to be seen as equal, if not better than, the colonials and the western world in general, but that is a 20th century argument.
So today we have a set of players with no historical, cultural or social commitment to constructs of the british empire or the 19th century thought process' they come with. Personal beliefs that were arguably the essential ingredient of all BWI winning teams. The current cricketing landscape on the other hand means today's players are now more commodities than diplomat / independent contractors with multiple options, free of the social constraints of yesteryear. So BWICBC will now have to do something they've never achieved in all their history - step their game up.
Don't hold your breath.
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Things can only improve? No they get worse. New Zealand emphasised the gap in class between us and them by thrashing us soundly in Wellington.AFRO wrote:
Our problem has always been the STRUCTURE within our cricket. Now the board own the sticky wicket and have plans on creating a boys and girls academy on that facility so things can only improve in the years to come. We in di PM will continue to push for progressive change!!!..
Our next home series is against Bangladesh, that's our level. We should play more tests against Bangladesh Zimbabwe Sri Lanka Afghanistan and Ireland. We are firmly in the second tier. We cannot win a series against the top tier of South Africa India England Australia Pakistan and new Zealand.