Whats your team for the Pakistan Test series?

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netgrouchy wrote:Afro I have read through 8 pages on total bunkum from you. I detect that you have a one-track mind: get Shiv off the team!!!! He is old, he is no good, he had a bad series in SL - they had more rain than games .... Face reality: He has been selected for the two tests

I doubt you have any idea about the game of cricket and/or is history - West Indian cricket history and its recent collision with the WICB.

How dare you talk about Shiv opening his big mouth. Read Tony Cozier's recent article:
THE most implausible aspect of the latest in the age-old, never-ending, self-defeating conflicts between the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) and its most prominent players is that Shivnarine Chanderpaul is at the forefront.

In the 17 years since he shuffled to the wicket at Bourda as a frail 19-year-old in his debut Test, Chanderpaul has never been embroiled in anything to tarnish his name or that of West Indies cricket, never been cited by a match referee, never appeared before a disciplinary committee. So what would have prompted such a seemingly placid individual to erupt, like a sleeping volcano, into such furious, lengthy outbursts, in print and on the airwaves, with the aid of his legal advisers, against the WICB, its chief executive Ernest Hilaire, coach Otis Gibson and the selectors?

And what can, indeed must, be done in the few days left before the Test series against Pakistan starts on Thursday to calm the troubled waters? On all the evidence, there were a few obvious catalysts to the dispute.

The first was Gibson's sharp censure of the unnamed but obvious "senior players" after the World Cup and his hint that they could be left out of the current home matches against Pakistan (as Chanderpaul, Gayle and Sarwan were). This was followed by Hilaire's general criticism of the attitude of some unidentified players in a radio interview.
The interviewer asked leading questions and provided a tremendous avenue/opportunity to get it out in the open so Shiv being inarticulate - just said it like it is..... He did not hold back and he is entitled to his emotions....

He openly admitted that the matter is HIS but he needed to liaise with WIPA so that he did not interfere with contractual issues and they put it in legalese. That was the one interview he did - everything else has mushroomed from that one but he cannot be held responsible for it. I actually think it has done a world of good for the team.

This now shows that the players cannot be taken for granted..... Jerome Taylor has had to go to IPL because no one approached him nor asked him to play in either the 5 ODIs or the 2 test matches..... His story is shocking too..... Nobody will speak for them so Shiv has opened up....

Shiv was also extremely supportive of Chris Gayle and Sarwan - I did not hear any one player speak out in support of SHIV..... Yes, the message boards, letters to editors in newspapers across the globe and private message like yours and mine are all out there but none could have touched the WICB as much as that one radio interview so kudos to the reporter who nabbed it.....

Give the man the respect he deserves... If you cannot find it within you to do so then simply shut YOUR big mouth and move on...........

Man up!!!!

Oh P/SS OFF!!.. you Shiv groupies are in such denial it's RIDICULOUS!!!.. Sarwan had as much right to open his mouth as Shiv did but did he? NO, he kept his head down and trained hard, now he's back in the team, but Shiv seems to think WI cricket "owes him something" when the fact is NO MAN IS BIGGER THAN THE TEAM, Hilaire didn't even mention Shiv by name and yet Shiv got on his high horse like his form has been great of late!! :roll: , HE'S BEEN DROPPED THREE TIMES RECENTLY FOR A REASON!!, the reason being his form has been garbage over the past year!!,

And yes he is in the squad!!..but if you think he's just gonna walk into the starting eleven then think again!!, Samuels sent a huge statement over the weekend and who do you think Gibbo is gonna favor? an old, out of form batsman who's been bad mouthing him in the media lately? like i told Mike KEEP PRAYING!! :lol: .
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Googley wrote:you want to kill Afro with that post? :lol:
Keep cheerleading Googley!!!.. you're becoming an expert at it!! :lol: .
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cuffman wrote:Let's look at who WILL PLAY this Thursday:

Sammy (captain) :evil:
Nash(vice captain)
Bishoo (spinner)
Baugh (the only keeper selected in the squad)
Darren Bravo (he's an essential member of the drive to rebuild)

Those 5, I think it's safe to say, will definitely start on Thursday. We are left with 6 other picks, this is how I think it will go:

Smith & Simmons (They are the only 2 openers selected in the squad, plus it'll be a major injustice to drop Simmons given the form he was in for the ODIs)

That's 7, 4 more...

IMO they should seek to strengthen the bowling attack if we are to have any hopes of forcing a win, draw cricket can't be an option. Hence IMO, all the quicks will start:

Roach
Edwards
Rampaul

That's 10. So, it'll be a toss up between Shiv, Sarwan and Samuels for the number 4 spot.

I think Sarwan right now is last in that race, hence IMO it's a toss-up between the out-of-form, but proven world-class veteran; and (potentially) the most prolific batsman right now in the region in the longer format.

Take your pick.

The squad may look as follows:

Simmons
Smith
Bravo
Shiv/Samuels
Nash
Baugh
Sammy
Rampaul
Roach
Edwards
Bishoo
I agree Cuffman, but some clowns are so desperate to have Shiv in the team that they are prepard to weaken our bowling unit in order to fit him in!! :roll: , imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can, i'm confident that bowling unit could do some damage.
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AFRO wrote:
Googley wrote:you want to kill Afro with that post? :lol:
Keep cheerleading Googley!!!.. you're becoming an expert at it!! :lol: .

who knows...I might the cappoship of WI that way!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Googley wrote:
who knows...I might the cappoship of WI that way!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah, why would you want that when you di "cappoship" of the Shiv fan club already? :lol:
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That kind of team is not going to happen, because there's no way that the WI selectors will pick five bowlers, including Sammy, and weaken the batting. There's no way the WI selectors would then drop Shiv, who has the best Test batting average of them all, and thus guarantee that the Windies are bowled out cheaply twice....

Shiv must play....

http://www.guyanachronicleonline.com/si ... s&Itemid=4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' “I have confidence in Shiv. He has been around cricket for a long time and he is very professional and I think he will go back in there and play the game how he is supposed to play it. We (all three selectors) spoke to him and we are confident he will go out there and get the job done,” said Butts.'

Quick - put Afro on suicide watch!
:lol:
This is the likely team, I think....

1) Lendl Simmons
2) Devon Smith
3) Darren Bravo
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Brendan Nash
7) Carlton Baugh
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Ravi Rampaul or Fidel Edwards
11) Dev Bishoo
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mikesiva wrote:That kind of team is not going to happen, because there's no way that the WI selectors will pick five bowlers, including Sammy, and weaken the batting. There's no way the WI selectors would then drop Shiv, who has the best Test batting average of them all, and thus guarantee that the Windies are bowled out cheaply twice....

Shiv must play....

http://www.guyanachronicleonline.com/si ... s&Itemid=4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' “I have confidence in Shiv. He has been around cricket for a long time and he is very professional and I think he will go back in there and play the game how he is supposed to play it. We (all three selectors) spoke to him and we are confident he will go out there and get the job done,” said Butts.'

Quick - put Afro on suicide watch!
:lol:
This is the likely team, I think....

1) Lendl Simmons
2) Devon Smith
3) Darren Bravo
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Brendan Nash
7) Carlton Baugh
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Ravi Rampaul or Fidel Edwards
11) Dev Bishoo
So who picks the team Mike? BUTTS or the man Shiv's been cussing in the press aka Gibbo? :lol: furthermore i take it you just want to draw the matches then? :roll: because like i told you already WE HAVEN'T PLAYED ONLY FOUR BOWLERS FOR YEARS!!, against SL it was Sammy, Bravo, Roach, Russell and Shillingford, maybe the coaches are as naive as you are!!.. i don't know, but don't expect us to bowl them out twice with just four bowlers!!, it's just not gonna happen.
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AFRO wrote:
Googley wrote:
who knows...I might the cappoship of WI that way!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nah, why would you want that when you di "cappoship" of the Shiv fan club already? :lol:
The Shiv fan club has more stringent requirements! While the WI cappoship just requires Cheerleading, clapping, spin toss...all which i am a master at! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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AFRO wrote:
mikesiva wrote:That kind of team is not going to happen, because there's no way that the WI selectors will pick five bowlers, including Sammy, and weaken the batting. There's no way the WI selectors would then drop Shiv, who has the best Test batting average of them all, and thus guarantee that the Windies are bowled out cheaply twice....

Shiv must play....

http://www.guyanachronicleonline.com/si ... s&Itemid=4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

' “I have confidence in Shiv. He has been around cricket for a long time and he is very professional and I think he will go back in there and play the game how he is supposed to play it. We (all three selectors) spoke to him and we are confident he will go out there and get the job done,” said Butts.'

Quick - put Afro on suicide watch!
:lol:
This is the likely team, I think....

1) Lendl Simmons
2) Devon Smith
3) Darren Bravo
4) Shiv Chanderpaul
5) Marlon Samuels
6) Brendan Nash
7) Carlton Baugh
8) Darren Sammy
9) Kemar Roach
10) Ravi Rampaul or Fidel Edwards
11) Dev Bishoo
So who picks the team Mike? BUTTS or the man Shiv's been cussing in the press aka Gibbo? :lol: furthermore i take it you just want to draw the matches then? :roll: because like i told you already WE HAVEN'T PLAYED ONLY FOUR BOWLERS FOR YEARS!!, against SL it was Sammy, Bravo, Roach, Russell and Shillingford, maybe the coaches are as naive as you are!!.. i don't know, but don't expect us to bowl them out twice with just four bowlers!!, it's just not gonna happen.
Shiv plays, and the team has four bowlers, including Sammy....

Quick! Someone go over to Afro's house, before he overdoses!
:lol:
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