Why Windians accepted the Panamanian but not the Aussie?

[mapoui]

as for forrin coaches that issue speaks for itself. westindies brought in Bennet King and John Dyson and both pissed on westindies, took huge salaries and gave littLE in return, save the most clear, in-our-faces sabotage by Dyson.

westindies wasted a couple of million US dollars for those two men..an absoulte waste. in the light of that experience it takes a really silly man like googley to speak out now for forrin coaches.

man FCUK forrin coaches...white ones for damm sure! none of them will come to the westindies to do sincere work for us. none at all!

and in any case, given the LONG NASTY relationship between blacs There will always be suspicion of one kind or another in in situations like these so why bother with it at all...especially when we do not need forrin coaches.

I pointed all this out from the day a forrin coach was considered. all I ever argued against forrin coaches have been conclusively proven out to be true... but at least let me state again this salient fact again:

WESTINDIES HAVE THE GREATEST CRICKET TRADITON OF ALL CRICKET NATIONS. WE HAVE BEEN THE MOST SKILLFUL, CREATIVE AND BRILLIANT AT THE GAME. WE HAVE PLAYED THE GAME MOST INTELLIGENTLY WITH THE MOST BRILLIANT TACTICAL, TRANSCENDING LEADERSHIP THAT CHANGED THE GAME AT CRUCIAL MOMENTS IN ITS HISTORY... IN FRANK WORRELL AND CLIVE LLOYD.

IT IS THE WAY THAT WESTINDIES DEVELOPED AND PLAYED THE GAME IN THE REGION AND THE WORLD, THAT IS CRUCIAL....ON THE MOST SKIMPY RESOURCES OF MANPOWER AND MONEY, LESS THAN ANY OTHER NATION SAVE PERHAPS BANGLDESH WHERE THERE IS GREAT MANPOWER BUT LITTLE MONEY.

THAT IS THE TRADITION, THE ACTUAL FACTUAL EXPERIENCE THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO BUILD, OR REBUILD WESTINDIES CRICKET. NO CRICKET NATION CAN TEACH WESTINDIES ANYTHING ABOUT CRICKET. WE CAN TEACH THEM.

THE OZ NOW PLAY A WESTINDIAN BRAND OF CRICKET AND WE PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO IMPORT THEY VERY GAME WE DEVELOPED OURSELVES!

allyuh see the stupidty?

thats the kind of stupidity that Indians laff at blac people for. yet here is an indian, googley, defending the damm crap loud and clear. what is he up to..is he really stupid or is he trying to sabotage westindes while seeming to care to help westindies?

look man no forrin coach! forrin coach is silly, stupid, a waste of real resources that could have been used to build westindian infrastructure.

wicb have revenues of about 5-6 million a year out of which you take one million a year to pay a skunt called King, who is now lost in luxurious obscurity in Oz at our expense, for no one appears to care to use him for anything much in coaching in Oz.

can anyone see the obvious, unimaginable, sabotaging skuntery in that..to take 1 fifth of your revenues to pay one man for a dubious lesson he is supposed to teach you...that you in fact taught him not so long ago. and after you have paid him so much of your desperately needed revenues he leaves and you are worse off for his being there!

my word! and a man comes here today and speaks in favour of forrin coaches after all that! incredible!

each and every nation and people have the responsibility to build themselves. westindies were doing a fine job building ourselves in cricket, producing world champions. all of a sudden, as soon as the westindian black elite took over we have become inept, incapable, incompetent, last where were first.

and from black elitist sabotage, we now have a growing Indian jackassness and insularity represented in these parts by Googley, Redbaron, Cacabelly, all on the Aficionado website, most on sissiy.com..all pushing insular, sectarian seperatist crap that truncates where we should be looking for expansion, embracing complexity, diversity and solving the resultant problems...maxing diversity in the clear truth that it is in diversity and expansion humans find progress and survival.

never in all the crap flowing on these boards is there a clear impression of acceptance of responsibility for ourselves, to build a nation in the region that takes care of our problems, is responsive to us and not to forriners, at once integrated properours and expansionary, in the sense of the constant growth of our citizens to human excellence.

it is time for the westindies to grow up thats what it is...way past time we put all the social crap we are overloaded...over-burdened with...and do for self and region what remains begging to be done...the construction of a prosperous and peaceful nation for all the peolple who share in our collective experience that makes us who and what we are.

Brendan nash is useful only in the debate he has spurred. other than I dont care for the guy!

[Googley]

there is nothing Kanhai coul have done or did that was not taken in stride by the westindian people..so I dont know what the hell is going in here about Kanhai not being forgiven for whatever. thats impossible in the westindies I knew!

then you don't know crap!!

people are still cussing Kalli.....

[mapoui]

there is nothing Kanhai coul have done or did that was not taken in stride by the westindian people..so I dont know what the hell is going in here about Kanhai not being forgiven for whatever. thats impossible in the westindies I knew!

then you don't know crap!!

people are still cussing Kalli.....

what did I actually say as quoted above? read it again and see.....

[BallOil]

Mapoui, I see your point a bit but where do we draw the line? we can't punish an innocent chap because of his color and what people did years a go...can we?

[mapoui]

Mapoui, I see your point a bit but where do we draw the line? we can't punish an innocent chap because of his color and what people did years a go...can we?

who get punished..nash?

how..when and where?

who can punish him and how?

you have not understood the situation AT ALL!

nash wanted in..he is in! nobody stopped him, nobOdy hurled racist epithets at him, did not want to sit with him, eat and drink with him, kept him out of anything.

nash has faced in the westindies..will never face in the westindies.... absoluely nothing in line with what blac people face routinely with white people everywhere in the world!

if westindians are unhappy with nash look at how their unhappiness has been expressed..in the pages of the cricket boards, in newspapers, television and radio commentary. overall westindian behaviour as always in these matters is impeccable

nash does not walk around the westindies in fear of racism of any kind...or fear for his life, even as LeBron James for example, must fear for his life from now on, in the USA from white racism for signing with the Miami heat!

I hear you, Googley etc talking...but I think allyuh not seeing reality clearly! what in the hey punishment allyuh talking about?

I want nash rass dropped and out of here. I look to Narsing and lil Bravo to help accomplish that...the natural order of development.

whats wrong with that?

allyuh behave as if nash has knives at his throat in his routine existence in the westindies, that people are plotting to harm him etc., when in fact it is the opposite is the case.

allyuh so protective of nash. dont you see my argument, of how the westindies is responsive to forriners in the postive opposed to blac people period?

just check allyuh behaviour in the matter for proof!

ALLYUH NEVER BEHAVE IN A LIKE MANNER WHEN BLAC PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED,.....NEVER!

ITS THE SAME WAY WITH ALL WESTINDIANS, BLAC PEOPLE TOO..WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE SERVICES, OFFICES, DEPARTMENTS, BANKS ETC. THEY..ALLYUH... NEVER SUPPORT BLAC PEOPLE LIKEWISE..LOCAL OR FORRIN.

AS SOON AS THE PERSON IS WHITE IN PARTICULAR, BUT ARAB, INDIAN CHINESE, OR ANY OTHER THAN BLAC ALL SIGNS ARE GO! WE ALL BECOME CONCERNED, SOLICITIOUS, HELPFUL, PROTECTIVE.

IF ITS A BLAC PERSON HERE ARE OUR FEET.... BOOTS, SNEAKERS, HEELS, ALL... WITH FULL FORCE!

[mapoui]

[[youtube]quote="BallOil"]Mapoui, I see your point a bit but where do we draw the line? we can't punish an innocent chap because of his color and what people did years a go...can we?[/quote]

who get punished..nash?

how..when and where?

who can punish him and how?

you have not understood the situation AT ALL!

nash wanted in..he is in! nobody stopped him, nobOdy hurled racist epithets at him, did not want to sit with him, eat and drink with him, kept him out of anything.

nash has faced in the westindies..will never face in the westindies.... absoluely nothing in line with what blac people face routinely with white people everywhere in the world!

if westindians are unhappy with nash look at how their unhappiness has been expressed..in the pages of the cricket boards, in newspapers, television and radio commentary. overall westindian behaviour as always in these matters is impeccable

nash does not walk around the westindies in fear of racism of any kind...or fear for his life, even as LeBron James for example, must fear for his life from now on, in the USA from white racism for signing with the Miami heat!

I hear you, Googley etc talking...but I think allyuh not seeing reality clearly! what in the hey punishment allyuh talking about?

I want nash rass dropped and out of here. I look to Narsing and lil Bravo to help accomplish that...the natural order of development.

whats wrong with that?

allyuh behave as if nash has knives at his throat in his routine existence in the westindies, that people are plotting to harm him etc., when in fact it is the opposite is the case.

allyuh so protective of nash. dont you see my argument, of how the westindies is responsive to forriners in the postive opposed to blac people period?

just check allyuh behaviour in the matter for proof!

ALLYUH NEVER BEHAVE IN A LIKE MANNER WHEN BLAC PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED,.....NEVER!

ITS THE SAME WAY WITH ALL WESTINDIANS, BLAC PEOPLE TOO..WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE SERVICES, OFFICES, DEPARTMENTS, BANKS ETC. THEY..ALLYUH... NEVER SUPPORT BLAC PEOPLE LIKEWISE..LOCAL OR FORRIN.

AS SOON AS THE PERSON IS WHITE IN PARTICULAR, BUT ARAB, INDIAN CHINESE, OR ANY OTHER THAN BLAC ALL SIGNS ARE GO! WE ALL BECOME CONCERNED, SOLICITIOUS, HELPFUL, PROTECTIVE.

IF ITS A BLAC PERSON HERE ARE OUR FEET.... BOOTS, SNEAKERS, HEELS, ALL... WITH FULL FORCE!

[mapoui]

[[youtube]quote="BallOil"]Mapoui, I see your point a bit but where do we draw the line? we can't punish an innocent chap because of his color and what people did years a go...can we?[/quote]

who get punished..nash?

how..when and where?

who can punish him and how?

you have not understood the situation AT ALL!

nash wanted in..he is in! nobody stopped him, nobOdy hurled racist epithets at him, did not want to sit with him, eat and drink with him, kept him out of anything.

nash has faced in the westindies..will never face in the westindies.... absoluely nothing in line with what blac people face routinely with white people everywhere in the world!

if westindians are unhappy with nash look at how their unhappiness has been expressed..in the pages of the cricket boards, in newspapers, television and radio commentary.

overall westindian behaviour as always in these matters has been and is impeccable

nash does not walk around the westindies in fear of racism of any kind...or fear for his life, even as LeBron James for example, must fear for his life from now on, in the USA from white racism for signing with the Miami heat!

I hear you, Googley etc talking...but I think allyuh not seeing reality clearly! what in the hey punishment allyuh talking about?

I want nash rass dropped and out of here. I look to Narsing and lil Bravo to help accomplish that...the natural order of development.

whats wrong with that?

allyuh behave as if nash has knives at his throat in his routine existence in the westindies, that people are plotting to harm him etc., when in fact it is the opposite that is the case.

allyuh so protective of nash. dont you see my argument, of how the westindies is responsive to forriners in the postive opposed to blac people period?

just check allyuh behaviour in the matter for proof!

there is absolutely nutten negative happeneinfg to nash..only positives...yet alluh bawling as if somebody choking the man!

ALLYUH NEVER BEHAVE IN A LIKE MANNER WHEN BLAC PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED,.....NEVER!

ITS THE SAME WAY WITH ALL WESTINDIANS, BLAC PEOPLE TOO..WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE SERVICES, OFFICES, DEPARTMENTS, BANKS ETC. THEY..ALLYUH... NEVER SUPPORT BLAC PEOPLE LIKEWISE..LOCAL OR FORRIN.

AS SOON AS THE PERSON IS WHITE IN PARTICULAR, BUT ARAB, INDIAN CHINESE, OR ANY OTHER THAN BLAC ALL SIGNS ARE GO! WE ALL BECOME CONCERNED, SOLICITIOUS, HELPFUL, PROTECTIVE.

IF ITS A BLAC PERSON HERE ARE OUR FEET.... BOOTS, SNEAKERS, HEELS, ALL... WITH FULL FORCE!

[BallOil]

I've voted for Obama... is Obama black or white? isn't that support?

I see it on every msg board people doh like nash cause of his color. But we openly accepted and worship Headley everywhere the blac Panamanian. This is just my observation...

[mapoui]

nash is a publci figure...a westindian cricketer! he must be able to take criticism. he is not above criticism period!

yet dat is what allyuh saying, that the criticism nash gets in rass is tantamount to punishment! nothing could be further from the truth.

if nash got in the wesindies what blac people get everywhere then he would leave! in fact he would not have come in the first place.

I think if its one problem allyuh have Bally is that allyuh feelings are on allyuh sleeves in this colour queston, exposing where allyuh stand quite clealry...and is not in the corner where blac people are.

the way allyuh feel clouds alluh eyes and judgement so that all doh see whats actually going on and start blaming such as I for all manner of things that could only be in our head... which you cannot see nor prove..and not on the ground, actually happening, taking place, physically attacking and punishing nash..to use your word..punishment.

what is actualy happening on the ground is what you and googly in fact actually do...WHICH IS POSTING AS YOU DO HERE EXPOSING WHERE YOU REALLY COMING FROM!

that is in fact what we do have, recorded here for all to see, examine, analyse, take apart, assess, to have see and know whats actually going on, who is actually prejudice against whom, who is behaving badly, unintelligently etc.

I dont see any balc person in oppostion to nash behaving badly, clandestibnely, plotting against nash etc. all have come out openely in oppisition, clearly, no subtefuge, illegality nutten of the kind.

you too and googley can be said to have come out and said allyuh pieces...and as we can see where the opposition is coming from we can also see where you all are coming from

[mapoui]

I've voted for Obama... is Obama black or white? isn't that support?

I see it on every msg board people doh like nash cause of his color. But we openly accepted and worship Headley everywhere the blac Panamanian. This is just my observation...

I would like to see an example where a westindian openly said he does not like nash because he is white!

(and I really wish you hadnt voted for Obama! anyway Obama or McCain it made no diff. wasted vote anyway! you should not have voted at all )