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If I remember correctly the last tour to England was hastily arranged by the greedy WICB well after Gayle's contracted commitment to the IPL.

As a matter of fact it WAS NOT part of the ICC tour schedule.

In retrospect what the WICB should have done is appoint another captain for that tour.

It's ironic that today the WICB comes to an "agreement" with players over their IPL commitments.

BUT THEN AGAIN THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
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BallOil wrote:The West Indies Squad departs the Caribbean tomorrow, May 2nd,
That means they should be arriving in Heathrow or Gatwick tomorrow morning, I think, when the weather will be cloudy and drizzly, with the day reaching a maximum of 12 Celsius....

This is comparison to the Tests that were recently played in Barbados and Trinidad, where the temperatures were 29 and 33 Celsius respectively.
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If most of the matches are played in the Northern part of England , our Players will find it exceedingly cold ., and that will undoubtedly affect their competitiveness and performances . Let me say that When this was done some years ago I warned the WICB not to get into that trap again .

Indelibly etched in my mind is Tony Cozier being very critical of our Players for having their hands in their pockets while fielding due to the coldness of the weather . I guess that poor Cozier , perhaps in a moment of senility , did not realize that the Players were unaccustomed to the cold weather , due to the fact that our Players prior to the imposition of the ban had no problem with the weather because they played in England when they were not representing the Region . I will never ever forgive Cozier for his stupid remarks .

I also recall that on one occasion , the weather was so cold that ALL County matches were stopped on account of the weather , but Our Players were playing a Test Match despite the weather . This in my opinion demonstrates how callous the WICB treats our Players . BTW these are facts not Fiction .
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POINT wrote:If most of the matches are played in the Northern part of England , our Players will find it exceedingly cold ., and that will undoubtedly affect their competitiveness and performances
The first test is at the home of cricket, Lord's, which is of course in London.

The second test is at Trent Bridge, 126 miles north of London.

The third test is at Edgbaston, 102 miles north of London.

First test starts 17 May.

The projected high for London on 11 May is 60 F
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Training and media schedule | Thursday, May 3

HOVE, England – Please find below the training and media schedule for the West Indies team on Thursday, May 3.

West Indies captain Darren Sammy and West Indies coach Ottis Gibson to speak at official arrival media conference in the dining room area of the Spen Cama Pavilion at the PROBIZ County Ground, Hove – 1 p.m. (8 a.m. ECT)

West Indies to train at the PROBIZ County Ground – 2 p.m. (9 a.m. ECT)
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'Absent from the 15-man Test squad will be Chris Gayle, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Sunil Narine and Dwayne Bravo. Gayle has not played international cricket since the World Cup a year ago after falling out with the West Indies Cricket Board, while Sarwan – who averages 40 in his 87 Tests – believes he has paid the price for being too close to the WICB's arch enemies, the West Indies Players' Association. Narine, a 23-year-old Trinidadian unorthodox offie, recently took 11 wickets in five ODIs against Australia at an average of 14 and with an economy-rate of 3.32. But the lure of the IPL meant he played no part in the Tests, where Shane Shillingford promptly overtook him with a 10-wicket haul in Dominica. As for Bravo, the more he plays for Chennai Super Kings, the less he feels a part of West Indies. As a quartet, these men provide their own reflection of the state of the game in the Caribbean: a world in which communication is poor, administrators are at each other's throats, and funds are so scarce that talented cricketers are forced to place faceless franchises ahead of regional prestige. We are often told that West Indian cricket has been the victim of circumstances beyond its control, and no doubt there is some truth in this. Sporting dynasties cannot last for ever, the lure of American sports is undeniable, and the post-colonial rage that burned inside Viv Richards may have flickered its last. But let's not patronise West Indian cricketers too much. Because they could, if they got their house in order, field the following XI at Lord's: Gayle, K Edwards, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Dwayne Bravo, Ramdin, Sammy, Narine, F Edwards, Roach. No world-beaters, perhaps, but strong enough to give England at least a scare. Instead, we will have to make do with a watered-down approximation of the real thing. And that is a source of regret – not just for the Caribbean, but for everyone who cares about cricket.'


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mikesiva wrote:'Absent from the 15-man Test squad will be Chris Gayle, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Sunil Narine and Dwayne Bravo. Gayle has not played international cricket since the World Cup a year ago after falling out with the West Indies Cricket Board, while Sarwan – who averages 40 in his 87 Tests – believes he has paid the price for being too close to the WICB's arch enemies, the West Indies Players' Association. Narine, a 23-year-old Trinidadian unorthodox offie, recently took 11 wickets in five ODIs against Australia at an average of 14 and with an economy-rate of 3.32. But the lure of the IPL meant he played no part in the Tests, where Shane Shillingford promptly overtook him with a 10-wicket haul in Dominica. As for Bravo, the more he plays for Chennai Super Kings, the less he feels a part of West Indies. As a quartet, these men provide their own reflection of the state of the game in the Caribbean: a world in which communication is poor, administrators are at each other's throats, and funds are so scarce that talented cricketers are forced to place faceless franchises ahead of regional prestige. We are often told that West Indian cricket has been the victim of circumstances beyond its control, and no doubt there is some truth in this. Sporting dynasties cannot last for ever, the lure of American sports is undeniable, and the post-colonial rage that burned inside Viv Richards may have flickered its last. But let's not patronise West Indian cricketers too much. Because they could, if they got their house in order, field the following XI at Lord's: Gayle, K Edwards, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Dwayne Bravo, Ramdin, Sammy, Narine, F Edwards, Roach. No world-beaters, perhaps, but strong enough to give England at least a scare. Instead, we will have to make do with a watered-down approximation of the real thing. And that is a source of regret – not just for the Caribbean, but for everyone who cares about cricket.'


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So you see, Afro, I'm not the only one suggesting that Kirk should open the batting....
8-)
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Training and media schedule | Tuesday, May 15 & Wednesday, May 16

LONDON – Find below the training and media schedule for the West Indies team ahead of the first Test against England, starting on Thursday, May 17 at Lord’s.

Tuesday, May 15

West Indies to train at Lord’s – 9:30 a.m. (4:30 a.m. ECT)

West Indies coach Ottis Gibson is available to speak to the media – approximately 12:30 p.m. (7:30 a.m. ECT)

Wednesday, May 16

West Indies to train at Lord’s – 1:30 p.m. (8:30 a.m. ECT)

West Indies captain Darren Sammy will attend a photo-opportunity with England captain Andrew Strauss holding the Investec Series trophy at Lord’s – 1 p.m. (8 a.m. ECT)

West Indies captain Darren Sammy will attend the official media launch of the Investec Test Series – approximately 1:05 p.m. (8:05 a.m. ECT)
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mikesiva wrote:So you see, Afro, I'm not the only one suggesting that Kirk should open the batting.... 8-)
As an experiment I would go for this. Kirk's performances seem to indicate that he has the mental toughness to succeed. Yes he will struggle as an opener but he is a player that seems to love time at the crease. He is rusty right now but i think he has the class to carve out for himself a noteworthy career. Opener? A big step up and against the moving ball in English conditions his lack of recent games could find him wanting but aren't his TEST figures better than all of the recent newcomers?

Sadly however, no amount of tinkering will alter the fundamentals: On performances the current representative 11 is not good enough at test level - as the youths dem does say nowadays, "Simple as!"
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