Gibson on the non-selection of Ramnaresh Sarwan:

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mapoui wrote:
BallOil wrote:fair enough... Sars has been active for the last 3-4 months.. WICB did a fitness check on Sars to rule him out of the SL tour?

Hilaire, Harpers, Chetty, Gibson, et al... all said that Sars is currently fit...so what is the reason for his non selection?

Did you read this?


I dont know what they did! they must get physical checks I imagine to asupport the dropping of sars if they claim fitness is the reason. I dont know thay they have.

if they have no such physical report they they are liars, have ulterios they have not spoken about!

as I also argued it may be we have to take sars as he is, a player who gets by on a certain level of fitness. and as long as we get 3-400 runs from him per series, or most series, we ought to be cool with it.

thats exactly the way i would approach sars as player and not try to force out of him what he has not achieved over 12 years now as a westindian player..full, impeccable shining fitness!
Mapoui....as far as I know NO fitness test was done on Sars... :) Yet, WICB ruled him out.... Remember all the the guys close to Sars said he is fit...Harper, Chetty, GCB, et al. Hilaire said that Sars is fit now too... BTW, Gibson said yersterday no fitness test was done on the players selected. What is the problem then?
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mapoui wrote:also look! Taylor has been left out! that is the one fact about this westindies side I liked very much indeed.

Taylor is young man who has really pissed me off over the years he has played for the westindies. enough is enough! it is either he gets fit and stays fit or he is toast.

if Jerome taylor never makes the westindies side again let alone the Yardie side I would be happy. but then again, I am a divorced fan so it does not matter!
Taylor is still injured.. He didn't play to Yard team.
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Sars on the otherhand has been active, he won the Caribbean T20, went to the Champions league and playing in this ODI regional. :)
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taylor injured all this time?

what he broke his brains?

what the eff takes this long to heal!?

I hope deh juss drop his always unfit rarse!
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Taylor he has been out of action with a back injury since South Africa’s tour of the Caribbean earlier this year
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What is Gibson claim to fame? :roll:
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Only a few batsmen scored more than 110 runs in this tournament....

1) Wilden Cornwall (Leewards) 188 (ave 37)
2) Kirk edwards (Barbados) 185 (ave 46)
3) Chris Gayle (Jamaica) 153 (ave 51)
4) J Charles (Windwards) 152 (ave 38)
5) Jonathan carter (Barbados) 143 (ave 35)
6) Devon Smith (Windwards) 141 (ave 70)
7) Chesney Hughes (Leewards) 120 (ave 24)
8) Darren Bravo (Trinidad) 114 (ave 57)

No sign of Sarwan anywhere among the leading runscorers....
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how many innings these players played? what Sarwan has to do with this? Shiv in not on the list either...
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again I would not put down gibsons comments too savagely if I were allyuh, before considering the question: how many tours Sars has attended and ended up injured for part, most, or the remainder, through injury?

Gibson has a valid case given the actual history of sarwan. a case in point is the last australin tour in which Sars raised great frustration indeed. westindies could have beaten australia in that seriies had our team remained fit througout..

Taylor as usual became unavailable leaving the pace to Roach, Rampaul and Tonge. and as soon as he established himself in the side lil Barath disappeared through injury.( I hope he is not another sarwan, Rampaul and Ramnarine and Taylor)

but sarwan wasnt available for 2 tests and the one he played he gave his wicket away twice and was injured again and done for the remainder, leaving westindies with dowlin and narsingh to fall back on.

I mean I was furious when I saw that..the way sars batted... and said so on 446. it was as if sars did not care. that was the clear impression I got along with the poster sir bim...as opposed to narsingh who gave the impression of having arrived.

I am not surprised that this current reaction to sars has developed. there is far more than enough grounds for it.

and the more sars is claimed to have achieved the worse it looks for him. for if he is so good why has he been effing around as much as he has been recently and in fact all the time.

a dependency has grown around sars contributions, precisely becuse of how much he has done, and when he is not available though frequent injury or when he petulantly and unprofessionally lets down, westindies are left in a bad situation indeed.

so bad in fact that at some point the decision had to be made to end the dependency and move along without the man.

i would have picked sars myself but I see Gibsons argument. no doubt about it!
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Mappy....I'll be back in a bit...have to hit the treadmill...hold tight. ah coming back for yuh :)
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Re: Gibson on the non-selection of Ramnaresh Sarwan:
--Fitness is not the reason for leaving out Sarwan, its something else and i think its a personal thing with him and the rest--I DO NOT TRUST COURTNEY BROWNE AND HOME BOY GIBSON.
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