NEW RICHARD PYBUS INTERVIEW!!

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this whole conversation is a repeat...from the days of Bennett King.
Maps, i think this "conversation" started even before King...all the way up to Andy Roberts.

but WI board didn't like that...so they fired him....then the next, the next, and the next...and so on and so on....

I waiting for Pybus to be shoved under the Bus by the board! :lol: :lol:
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deh shud shove the Mout' with him..both ah dem!
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'The relevant points are the "professionalisation" of the regional first-class game and the expansion of the season. There will be 90 players under contract, 75 with their individual boards, 15 with the High Performance and A squads. The objective is to ensure that all the players are available for a new tournament of double-round cricket over six months (as opposed to one round concentrated into six weeks at present). It won't come cheap. Pybus estimates the cost of the new plan to be US$2.8 million for staff and players, $750,000 for the expansion of the first-class and one-day competitions, $300,000 for retainers for the A squad. To raise such sums, he believes sponsorship through naming rights of teams could raise $200,000 and naming rights to their stadiums a further $500,000. "Territorial boards to source sponsorship for first-class teams as they do in Australia, England, South Africa, the IPL," he wrote, hopefully. Given that the first-class series hasn't been sponsored since Carib, the Trinidadian brewery, ended theirs in 2009, that cricket no longer holds the sporting pride of place it once did in the region and that most of the territories are going through difficult economic times, the marketing departments face a difficult task. What is more, the WICB is ironically competing for the same financial support from private enterprise and governments as the Caribbean Premier League, to which it sold its T20 rights last year.'

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 39875.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Let's be frank here....

Back in the old days, Shell and Red Stripe sponsored the FC season, because fans turned out in large numbers to watch matches. Now, only three men and a dog have turned out to watch the final - on a Saturday! If you can no longer pull fans to the four-day game, you won't pull sponsors. These are the main reasons why the CPL has sponsors, and the four-day competition does not.

'The directors even agreed to Pybus' plan for each of the six territories to select their ten contracted players after which all the others would "go into a draft to equalise the regional distribution of players to the betterment of West Indies cricket". The idea is that within a year all players will be open to a "free market… as per best practice in overseas first-class cricket". While the CPL followed the IPL lead and introduced the draft concept in its first year in 2013, it might be a revolutionary concept too far for traditional West Indies cricket that, after all, comprises a dozen independent nations each protective of its sovereignty. It was all very well for Narine to turn out for the Guyana Amazon Warriors and Pollard to captain the Barbados Tridents rather than their native Trinidad Red Steel in the inaugural CPL T20 fiesta; another for such a switch to extend to intense, long-standing inter-territorial rivalries.'

This is another nonsense that Afro seems to like...T20 is lickit cricket. You can mix and match players, but you don't do it for four-day cricket. Not even three men and a dog would turn up to see that.

'Pybus' is not the first such report commissioned by the WICB. That, prepared by a group, headed by the former Jamaica prime minister PJ Patterson, presented an equally significant tome in 2007. Its main points were not acted on, prompting Patterson to complain that he had spent a couple of years wasting his time. It has now reached the stage where the WICB cannot afford to treat Pybus' report the same way.'

That is the problem...a missed opportunity to implement the Patterson report. It's not too late for Cameron to do so. But will he?

That's the main problem with the WICB....
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Cozier makes a good point in today's cricinfo article about one aspect about the Pybus recommended changes: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/co ... 39875.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"The directors even agreed to Pybus' plan for each of the six territories to select their ten contracted players after which all the others would "go into a draft to equalise the regional distribution of players to the betterment of West Indies cricket". The idea is that within a year all players will be open to a "free market… as per best practice in overseas first-class cricket".

While the CPL followed the IPL lead and introduced the draft concept in its first year in 2013, it might be a revolutionary concept too far for traditional West Indies cricket that, after all, comprises a dozen independent nations each protective of its sovereignty. It was all very well for Narine to turn out for the Guyana Amazon Warriors and Pollard to captain the Barbados Tridents rather than their native Trinidad Red Steel in the inaugural CPL T20 fiesta; another for such a switch to extend to intense, long-standing inter-territorial rivalries.

Englishmen are free to represent several counties, Australians to switch states, New Zealanders to move between provinces during their careers. They are one nationality; there are no more than 20 instances over the years of West Indians representing territories other than their own - and those have been mainly through residence.

It is a wonder West Indies cricket has survived for more than 100 years as an entity. The internal spats that have confronted Caricom, the Caribbean trade and economic grouping, throughout its comparative infancy, typify the potential pitfalls. Pybus' is not the first such report commissioned by the WICB. That, prepared by a group, headed by the former Jamaica prime minister PJ Patterson, presented an equally significant tome in 2007. Its main points were not acted on, prompting Patterson to complain that he had spent a couple of years wasting his time.

It has now reached the stage where the WICB cannot afford to treat Pybus' report the same way."


I agree with Cozier, its ok for us to break up teams for CPL - but i think its a hard sell to break it up for 4-day & 50 overs. National rivalry is sitll a great traditional of west indies cricket history.
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We've been trying the same old crap for the last 18 YEARS!!..where has it got us? :roll: NOWHERE!!..this new structure is in line with what the majority of our cricket rivals are doing...allowing players to move freely will eventually lead to our cricket weeding out poor performers...so how can we lose with that? MORE games will now be played and sponsors are set to get on board...

Mike might snipe at the lack of "crowds" but this final is in the winwards...hardly a hotbed for radical cricket support is it? :? if it was in the big teams backyards then i think you would have seen a different picture..just like it was when bim played Jamaica.

Unnu can gash your teeth and moan all you like...the bottom line is the board are embracing a new dawn in our cricket instead of just twiddling their thumbs and pretending that nothing was wrong...and i applaud them for that...these players will be like real PRO'S now...and as a result i expect to see a vast improvement in our cricket moving FORWARD!! :D .
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the bottom line is the board are embracing a new dawn in our cricket
wait, you turn politician now or comedian? either way, that shyte you spewing is real funny!! :lol:
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to me the proper direction for west indies cricket to take is the development of a regional FC competition of clubs with promotion and relegation based on sub-regional competitions.

3 clubs at least from all the groupings and territories would enter the FC regionals from their own internal FC competitions which would feature promotion/relegation

the national competiton..Dung Heap should be a short sharp competiton at the end of the season to finish off everything

as Gils pointed out the great drawback to the development of such a competition would be the cost and availability of regional travel
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to me the proper direction for west indies cricket to take is the development of a regional FC competition of clubs with promotion and relegation based on sub-regional competitions.

3 clubs at least from all the groupings and territories would enter the FC regionals from their own internal FC competitions which would feature promotion/relegation

the national competiton..Dung Heap should be a short sharp competiton at the end of the season to finish off everything

as Gils pointed out the great drawback to the development of such a competition would be the cost and availability of regional travel
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Colin sees what I'm talking about, and I agree with what he says, because Colin is a Trini, and I am a Jamaican...these national rivalries mean something. The West Indies is not like England and Australia, because they are one country - we are not.

Regional cricket will not be improved by taking Marlon Samuels from Jamaica and giving him to the Leewards, or by taking Kirk Edwards from Barbados and giving him to Guyana. Regional cricket can only be improved by a grass roots effort to get cricket back into the schools, the way it used to be when I went to school....

Afro doesn't understand, because Afro has no such national sentiments.
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cricket can only be improved by a grass roots effort to get cricket back into the schools
EXACTLY!!! Mike!! you hit the nail on the head.

I do believe Alvin Kallicharran said the same thing several years ago when he was asked what it will take to bring WI cricket back to the top.

It has to start from the root, not the branches.

The root is rotten in WI cricket. Too much corruption, not enough attention being given to the school cricketers.

Have you seen the condition of the local grounds in the WI? When I go to Guyana and see how many cricket grounds are now being used as cow pasture, it makes you cry! So guess what the kids are doing?

MOving to other sports!!!
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