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Gils wrote: But, but........athenasius, your population theory is blown apart by India's failure to dominate internationally and T&T's inability to do so regionally, while the structure fallacy also falls down at both T&T and India.

So you wont be eating or having any cake on this one. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
BWAHAHAHA HOW DID I MISS THIS LITTLE GEM FROM MC SIDEPIECE?!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

ERR..

1. India were recently NUMBER ONE in test cricket, have won the one day cup and also the champions trophy!!..so please go and sit your stupid rass DOWN.

2. Trinidad ran the local t20 competition before it became the "cpl" ..the only reason they didn't win the four day comp is because the majority of their best players have been taken away by the ipl..so again WRONG..

You also love to peddle out "stats" so tell me how the feck would Jamaica do well "going it alone" with the likes of FATBERT, KILLA "DUNGHEAP BULLY" MILLER AND "Mr average" BERNARD? :shock:

Please give me some jokes!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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mikesiva wrote: More anti-Jamaican crap....
:roll:
Exactly what is "piss-poor" about Jamaica's structure?

Winning six titles is more indicative of Jamaica's successful structure than which players are selected for the West Indies by a biased WI selection panel. It seems you're only interested in your Eastern Caribbean youngsters making WIndies teams than in the performance of regional teams like the Leewards...that's backwards thinking, skunt.

Do tell us exactly where the Eastern Caribbean has a better structure than Jamaica....
BWAHAHAHA more rivers mike bawling bhai!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've already explained how WEAK the jamaican structure is on other threads duncy..go read them again as i haven't got time to repeat myself. As for "jamaican bias"..so WHO was the one pushing Cotterrell and Blackwood while you was content to make them ROTT in the reserves in favor of them wukless "seniors"? :roll: who was the one bigging up Dewar for CCC and arguing Thomas's case for A-team selection? YOU'RE A BLIND FOOL MIKE!!..and any criticism of Jamaica you really can't handle which is odd considering you're an OLD SKUNT :mrgreen: .

Jamaica have been lucky to have a settle side with some good DUNGHEAP BULLIES within it...those bullies are on the downslide though and Bim are now taking the titles..if Jamaica don't get dem house in order they will be way down in the pecking order soon 8-) .

The fact is throughout this whole debate you haven't presented a single piece of EVIDENCE to prove what i'm saying wrong..why? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN THE REGION AND HAVE NO CLUE WHATS HAPPENING!!..that's why :lol: :lol: .
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Newsflash, Afro...players such as Akeem Dewar, Shacaya Thomas and Jermaine Blackwood were produced by the Jamaican school and club systems, so what are you on about? The non-selection of Shacaya on the A team is an indication of the anti-Jamaican bias from the selection panel...how can Fudadin be picked ahead of him?
:?
You clearly have no knowledge of the Jamaican club structure, or the Jamaican school structure, so instead of claiming to know something you do not, ask for information from someone who does...me.
8-)
Here's an example of the final of the Senior Cup, played between long-standing stalwarts of the competition, JDF and Kingston:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/cr ... p_17373644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's more information about the group stages:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/cr ... r_17367867" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More here:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/JD ... s_17252988" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now, do you see how stupid you were to insist that Jamaica's club structure only had five teams?

You have never been to watch any of these teams play over the years...I have.
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mikesiva wrote:Newsflash, Afro...players such as Akeem Dewar, Shacaya Thomas and Jermaine Blackwood were produced by the Jamaican school and club systems, so what are you on about? The non-selection of Shacaya on the A team is an indication of the anti-Jamaican bias from the selection panel...how can Fudadin be picked ahead of him?
And Powell and Thomas was produced by Leewards and both have played at internation level...that doesn't mean Leewards structure isn't POOR duncy!! :roll:


You clearly have no knowledge of the Jamaican club structure, or the Jamaican school structure, so instead of claiming to know something you do not, ask for information from someone who does...me.
Here's an example of the final of the Senior Cup, played between long-standing stalwarts of the competition, JDF and Kingston:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/cr ... p_17373644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BWAHAHAHAH mike SEARCHING through papers again? :lol: :lol: :lol: ok instead of giving me "results"..tell me about the individual clubs structure? what are their training facilities like? do they have academies? please ENGLIGHTEN ME seeing as you're the one with the "information"...I'M WAITING.

Here's more information about the group stages:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/cr ... r_17367867" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More here:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sport/JD ... s_17252988" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now, do you see how stupid you were to insist that Jamaica's club structure only had five teams?

You have never been to watch any of these teams play over the years...I have.
SIGH!!..five COMPETENT TEAMS COMPARED TO THE TRINIDAD, GUYANA AND BIM STRUCTURE YOU DUMB FOOL!!..once again you're comprehension skills are sorely lacking and i can only put it down to OLD AGE!!..or just plaIn DUMBNESS!! 8-)
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Sunil Narine banned from CLT 20 final
Things going from bad to worse, in a hurry.

WI chances over the next 6 months just took another dent, before a ball has even been bowled, no doubt affers will vent at the Pakistani fans tweets.
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AFRO wrote: SIGH!!..five COMPETENT TEAMS COMPARED TO THE TRINIDAD, GUYANA AND BIM STRUCTURE YOU DUMB FOOL!!..once again you're comprehension skills are sorely lacking and i can only put it down to OLD AGE!!..or just plaIn DUMBNESS!! 8-)
Once again, you're just running off your mouth with no knowledge or evidence whatsoever....

So, exactly what makes the club structure at Guyana, Barbados and Trinidad better than what exists in Jamaica? I keep asking you, but you keep dodging the question.

Jamaica has a decent structure from school straight into the clubs, and that's why Jamaica has dominated the regional competition. Only Barbados comes close.

You don't need state of the art facilities...you just need interest, to play a decent quality cricket, and competitions to facilitate that. What Jamaica has, for games that last more than one day, is clearly better than what Trinidad and Guyana have, with only Barbados probably coming close.

Sure, it's nothing compared to what exists in England, but it's better than what exists in most of the eastern Caribbean....

The only consistency is your obvious hatred of Jamaicans. You're clearly a small islander...are you from the Leewards?
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BWAHAHAHA FIRSTLY MIKE DODGING DI OTHER DEBATE ABOUT ACADEMIES HARD BHAI!!..I WONDER WHY? :lol: :lol: :lol:

And once again i'll say THE JAMAICAN CLUB SYSTEM IS NOT AS ORGANISED, NORE PROFESSIONAL AS THE OTHER THREE MENTIONED ABOVE...THE OTHER THREE HAVE BETTER GROUNDS, BETTER TRAINING FACILITIES, BETTER ACADEMIES THAT GO WITH THE CLUBS, BETTER DOMESTIC COMPETITIONS ETC!!..JUST ALL ROUND BETTER!!..i mean why don't you prove me wrong then if i'm not right?

Anyway reading this needs to ask themself..who would know more?

1. a person with close ties to the board who is ACTUALLY IN THE CARIBBEAN?

2. an english pr/ck who was BORN in england, is currently there and knows NOTHING about the domestic structures around the caribbean?

i think the answer is pretty obvious 8-)
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India A win by 9 wickets
Scores: West Indies 148-9; India A 149-1 (25.2 overs)
Well, if this first warm up is anything to go by .....

I havent seen the complete scorecard but Rampaul, Roach, Taylor and Holder must have all took a beating if India A scoring at 6 per over.
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WI go down again in the 2nd of 2 practise match's, but this time with a fight.

Batting 1st India A 282, West Indies 266-9 in 50 overs. India A won by 16 runs.

A century from Denesh Ramdin and notable contributions with the bat from J Holder and D Sammy fail to prevent WI going 0-2 for the tour.
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Gils wrote:Lol..the much lauded metric of the mouthpiece, by which teams are now measured, apparently.

So with that in mind..

(1) LICA now receive 27 % of the WICBC developmental budget ......approx 2/3rds greater than a equal allocation, by members.

LICA, with a 7 % representation by population among WICBC members.

:?: When last did they produce a player for the WICBC test XI.
That proportion seems quite inequitable to me.

Surely for that amount the expectations has to be high?
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