Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI team
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Here is an article from the Guyana Chronicle which slid thru during the holidays that worth a read... What say you?
Written by SHANE RIZWAN
Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:36
“BEASTS of a skin stick together” is a much more effective and succinct way of expressing the once, overused proverb: “Birds of a feather flock together.” After all, this is precisely what is being evinced by the Windies cricketing authorities. It is quite redolent of what the Great Sir Vivian Richards opined during his heydays, when he verbalised his wish for an ‘all-African West Indies team.’ His bravado really did epitomise the voice of Afro-West Indians en-masse (only that it was not verbalised). Professor Nettleford once suggested that Indians must integrate (into blackness) or else move on. Now this sentiment is ensconced through scholar manquй, Dr. David Hinds, another socio-politico scientist perforce, whose choice of academic pursuit seems to commensurate with limited academic acumen. After all, the countless members of this ilk, only take up career in social sciences by virtue of preemption from natural science, language, literature, and law.
What is dangerous is that this type of pseudo scholasticism has a following. Dr. Hinds, being very innocuous in his area of ‘expertise’, now enters the realm of sports, specifically cricket, and his sentiment is glaring, obnoxious and saturated with sophistry. Here is a pretentious academic, telling the world that Darren Sammy’s choice for the all important post of West Indies captaincy is most timely. And why is this so? Well, according to Dr. Hinds, Sammy has fierce pride, and is also concerned about regional cricketing image. In other words, Ramnaresh Sarwan and all others have less pride in and concern for West Indies cricket. This kind of invidious thinking truly defies cricketing rationale, as well as human intelligence. In canvassing for a captain, who can only make the final 11, out of bare necessity, is an insult non pareil. Sammy’s credentials are characterised by sporadic appearances and club-like performances. Imagine these motivated the call for and support of his captaincy!
One is reminded of the fact that Sarwan chose against playing for the all Indian game in celebration of Indian arrival in Guyana. He explained at that time that he is simply not just an Indian cricketer. Now, he is learning that he is not even that; he is just another Indian. Sarwan should have sensed his current relegation. When injured, in England, on the last West Indian tour, he was replaced first by Darren Ganga, whose performances accelerated his demise, and then by Christopher Gayle. However, on Sarwan’s recovery, there was a vociferous campaign to keep Gayle as captain, and demote Sarwan to the subservient role of the deputy, a position he later declined. This of itself evoked memory of the Alvin Kallicharran/Vivian Richards situation, after the 1978 Kerry packer interruption. Going against the norm, when the deputy was the players’ choice, the then WICBC installed Richards. At that time, either Deryck Murray or Alvin Kallicharran would have been preferred by the players. What was quite risible about Gayle’s elevation was the fact that his qualities of taciturnity and introversion were seen as positives. He was hailed as “Mr. Cool.” Mind you, the same traits were used to condemn and bury Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Chanderpaul later did right, in opting to accept his deserted Indian accolade from President Jagdeo, even though Freddie Kissoon advised against it. One wonders what are now the thoughts of both Sarwan and Kissoon.
Another facet of this ‘skin of a beast stick together’ is found in the fact that Gibson and Sammy are doppelgangers: one simply mirrors the other. Gibson played a mere two tests and 15 one-dayers for the West Indies, and made the side only because of the absolute paucity of talented players. Sammy is another fringe left over, who at best is a half-rounder. Then think of the fact that Clyde Butts and Courtney Browne are two senior selecting officials, and that both never made any serious contribution at the highest level in West Indies cricket. Yet these marginal men are controlling and directing West Indies cricket. So when Otis Gibson spoke, and I assume in a representative voice, he was spewing turd. He was and is not being seen as ingenuous and pure. He explained that he was concerned about Sarwan’s fitness. Mind you, prior to the rain-affected Sri Lankan tour, this same unfit and injury-prone Sarwan played the regional T20 tournament, leading Guyana to victory, took his side to the T20 Airtel championship in South Africa, and is currently participating in division one competitions. So Gibson’s balderdash of feculence must be abhorred. I hope no Indian will ever take him seriously, and that all, seeing his bigotry, sophistry, and yes his hair and skin, shun him. The chance will come quickly too, for soon he is bound to be at your door.
Link:Guyana Chronicle
Written by SHANE RIZWAN
Thursday, 30 December 2010 00:36
“BEASTS of a skin stick together” is a much more effective and succinct way of expressing the once, overused proverb: “Birds of a feather flock together.” After all, this is precisely what is being evinced by the Windies cricketing authorities. It is quite redolent of what the Great Sir Vivian Richards opined during his heydays, when he verbalised his wish for an ‘all-African West Indies team.’ His bravado really did epitomise the voice of Afro-West Indians en-masse (only that it was not verbalised). Professor Nettleford once suggested that Indians must integrate (into blackness) or else move on. Now this sentiment is ensconced through scholar manquй, Dr. David Hinds, another socio-politico scientist perforce, whose choice of academic pursuit seems to commensurate with limited academic acumen. After all, the countless members of this ilk, only take up career in social sciences by virtue of preemption from natural science, language, literature, and law.
What is dangerous is that this type of pseudo scholasticism has a following. Dr. Hinds, being very innocuous in his area of ‘expertise’, now enters the realm of sports, specifically cricket, and his sentiment is glaring, obnoxious and saturated with sophistry. Here is a pretentious academic, telling the world that Darren Sammy’s choice for the all important post of West Indies captaincy is most timely. And why is this so? Well, according to Dr. Hinds, Sammy has fierce pride, and is also concerned about regional cricketing image. In other words, Ramnaresh Sarwan and all others have less pride in and concern for West Indies cricket. This kind of invidious thinking truly defies cricketing rationale, as well as human intelligence. In canvassing for a captain, who can only make the final 11, out of bare necessity, is an insult non pareil. Sammy’s credentials are characterised by sporadic appearances and club-like performances. Imagine these motivated the call for and support of his captaincy!
One is reminded of the fact that Sarwan chose against playing for the all Indian game in celebration of Indian arrival in Guyana. He explained at that time that he is simply not just an Indian cricketer. Now, he is learning that he is not even that; he is just another Indian. Sarwan should have sensed his current relegation. When injured, in England, on the last West Indian tour, he was replaced first by Darren Ganga, whose performances accelerated his demise, and then by Christopher Gayle. However, on Sarwan’s recovery, there was a vociferous campaign to keep Gayle as captain, and demote Sarwan to the subservient role of the deputy, a position he later declined. This of itself evoked memory of the Alvin Kallicharran/Vivian Richards situation, after the 1978 Kerry packer interruption. Going against the norm, when the deputy was the players’ choice, the then WICBC installed Richards. At that time, either Deryck Murray or Alvin Kallicharran would have been preferred by the players. What was quite risible about Gayle’s elevation was the fact that his qualities of taciturnity and introversion were seen as positives. He was hailed as “Mr. Cool.” Mind you, the same traits were used to condemn and bury Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Chanderpaul later did right, in opting to accept his deserted Indian accolade from President Jagdeo, even though Freddie Kissoon advised against it. One wonders what are now the thoughts of both Sarwan and Kissoon.
Another facet of this ‘skin of a beast stick together’ is found in the fact that Gibson and Sammy are doppelgangers: one simply mirrors the other. Gibson played a mere two tests and 15 one-dayers for the West Indies, and made the side only because of the absolute paucity of talented players. Sammy is another fringe left over, who at best is a half-rounder. Then think of the fact that Clyde Butts and Courtney Browne are two senior selecting officials, and that both never made any serious contribution at the highest level in West Indies cricket. Yet these marginal men are controlling and directing West Indies cricket. So when Otis Gibson spoke, and I assume in a representative voice, he was spewing turd. He was and is not being seen as ingenuous and pure. He explained that he was concerned about Sarwan’s fitness. Mind you, prior to the rain-affected Sri Lankan tour, this same unfit and injury-prone Sarwan played the regional T20 tournament, leading Guyana to victory, took his side to the T20 Airtel championship in South Africa, and is currently participating in division one competitions. So Gibson’s balderdash of feculence must be abhorred. I hope no Indian will ever take him seriously, and that all, seeing his bigotry, sophistry, and yes his hair and skin, shun him. The chance will come quickly too, for soon he is bound to be at your door.
Link:Guyana Chronicle
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man bally...allyuh cyan really beat a dead horses yuh hear.
next time mih horse fall dong I go call alluh to beat it, not someone to droge it someplace to bury it.
yes sarwan get drop wit' fitness as excuse. who disagree? I never hear anybody say different!
wat I hear mihself in particualr say..an' I tink' BP too...is dat Sarwan was up in the wicb face and he give dem the fitness issue to beat him with by playing like a berk in Oz, den getting injured, leaving the team in a serious lurch in Oz which no doubt made defeat in the last test likely, when westindies had no one to turn to of any class at al.
I dont think allyuh really saw what I saw of Sars in Oz in that serious. when he batted he did not seem to care and made shots to get out..and did get out, ridiculously, soft uncaring dismissals.
and then bam! he got injured and out of the team leaving us with the inexperienced and short of class, Narsing and Dowlin...even lil Barath got injured and was out.
man what the hell was dat all about? that was absolutely unworthy of sarwan. I woud have dropped his rass straight-up.. for dat. no excuse! no nothing! just dropped for playing the arse!
and it would have been fair for the wicb to let everybody know by telling the public why..openly. by using tape to demonstrate what they were talking about, along with managers report etc.
the wicb so incompetent they had the perfect opportunity to beat up on sarwan and the wipa and they let it slide, even allowing the public to think all manner of reasons for dropping sarwan rass, other than the one he deserved to be dropped for
next time mih horse fall dong I go call alluh to beat it, not someone to droge it someplace to bury it.
yes sarwan get drop wit' fitness as excuse. who disagree? I never hear anybody say different!
wat I hear mihself in particualr say..an' I tink' BP too...is dat Sarwan was up in the wicb face and he give dem the fitness issue to beat him with by playing like a berk in Oz, den getting injured, leaving the team in a serious lurch in Oz which no doubt made defeat in the last test likely, when westindies had no one to turn to of any class at al.
I dont think allyuh really saw what I saw of Sars in Oz in that serious. when he batted he did not seem to care and made shots to get out..and did get out, ridiculously, soft uncaring dismissals.
and then bam! he got injured and out of the team leaving us with the inexperienced and short of class, Narsing and Dowlin...even lil Barath got injured and was out.
man what the hell was dat all about? that was absolutely unworthy of sarwan. I woud have dropped his rass straight-up.. for dat. no excuse! no nothing! just dropped for playing the arse!
and it would have been fair for the wicb to let everybody know by telling the public why..openly. by using tape to demonstrate what they were talking about, along with managers report etc.
the wicb so incompetent they had the perfect opportunity to beat up on sarwan and the wipa and they let it slide, even allowing the public to think all manner of reasons for dropping sarwan rass, other than the one he deserved to be dropped for
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Mapoui, doh shoot the messenger...I just read the article and wanted to share...
Now you need to stop selecting dead horses or is that a Windian specialty?
Don't tell me Butts, et al are giving you advice on horse racing now
if so, tek your money and run...run and don't turn back.
Anyways, I'll still waiting for the medical report from the WICB to prove that Sarwan was unfit for a contract\selection. I'm sure they have one ...right?
Now you need to stop selecting dead horses or is that a Windian specialty?



Anyways, I'll still waiting for the medical report from the WICB to prove that Sarwan was unfit for a contract\selection. I'm sure they have one ...right?
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Sarwans behaviour was dumb, stupid! unprofessinal, immature...behaviour dat does not belie his 10-11 years of experience as a professional at the highest level of the game.
why wouldnt those who know better admit that and stop putting blame where it does not lie?
if westindies must pick its best team regardless then regardless of what sarwan does he must be picked.
but that makes no sense if he would not bat when his turns comes up. which is prescisely what sarwans was doing! he would come up to bat and throw his wicket away!
the man was in temporary insanity at the very least!
why would'nt and should'nt a player get benched for that?
the wicb has every reason to cut Sawan for a long time if not permanently. but they have selected him again which is pretty decent of them.
I am happy he is back because I like Sarwan and agree with a forgiveness regime. back in the day Gilchrist was wrong in what he did even if in priciple I agreed with all he thought, what drove him to behave as he did. but I was all for bringing him back. no different with sarwan
why wouldnt those who know better admit that and stop putting blame where it does not lie?
if westindies must pick its best team regardless then regardless of what sarwan does he must be picked.
but that makes no sense if he would not bat when his turns comes up. which is prescisely what sarwans was doing! he would come up to bat and throw his wicket away!
the man was in temporary insanity at the very least!
why would'nt and should'nt a player get benched for that?
the wicb has every reason to cut Sawan for a long time if not permanently. but they have selected him again which is pretty decent of them.
I am happy he is back because I like Sarwan and agree with a forgiveness regime. back in the day Gilchrist was wrong in what he did even if in priciple I agreed with all he thought, what drove him to behave as he did. but I was all for bringing him back. no different with sarwan
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very interesting here Bally. as I submitted my last post the site told me a new post had been made and asked me if I wanted to review my post in the light of that post you just made.
thats great man. I did not know that that was possible!
I submited the post anyway to see how it would play out. I will edit it now!
thats great man. I did not know that that was possible!
I submited the post anyway to see how it would play out. I will edit it now!
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mapoui wrote:Sarwans behaviour was dumb, stupid! unprofessinal, immature...behaviour dat does not belie his 10-11 years of experience as a professional at the highest level of the game.
why wouldnt those who know better admit that and stop putting blame where it does not lie?
if westindies must pick its best team regardless then regardless of what sarwan does he must be picked.
but that makes no sense if he would not bat when his turns comes up. which is prescisely what sarwans was doing! he would come up to bat and throw his wicket away!
the man was in temporary insanity at the very least!
why would'nt and should'nt a player get benched for that?
the wicb has every reason to cut Sawan for a long time if not permanently. but they have selected him again which is pretty decent of them.
I am happy he is back because I like Sarwan and agree with a forgiveness regime. back in the day Gilchrist was wrong in what he did even if in priciple I agreed with all he thought, what drove him to behave as he did. but I was all for bringing him back. no different with sarwan
naw..i wont endit it. make it stay! its wat I feel and I will take any licks coming my way fuh it!
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Anyways, I'll still waiting for the medical report from the WICB to prove that Sarwan was unfit for a contract\selection. I'm sure they have one ...right?
well I read where Gibson explained that westindies were very disapointed that when on tour and yuh have a playerwho is not available to represent you, injured..and he has a history of this..and you are in a lurch to put together a team and that that is a very hard position to be in
those comments of Gibsons relative to sarwan appears to have covered the medical report bit. they dont need one..the wicb, Gibson and Hunte
when you take people money, sign conract etc, you undertake to follow as stipulated by the agreement you have signed a certain course of responsibilites.
if you have issues, the agreement and the laws of the nation and region you come from and under whose jurisdiction the agreement falls, provide means of dealing with them, of disagreement, protest and resolution.
when you go out on the field and let down in protest, disatisfaction and sabotage..that is objectionable.
only where you are compelled to go out there and do that..that is that all other means of protest and resolution have been exhausted, that you are enslaved, brutalised, starved out, and you are left only with public display of disaffection and sabotage of what you are compelled to represent
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I mean even wipa would/should be angry at Sarwan for that display. what on earth could he have been thinking? how did that hlep wipa - labour - in its struggles with the wicb - management?
I dont see wipa fightring for Sarwan on this issue anywhere. allyuh see wipa out there in there in his cornah dis time?
that is like fighting a battle for someone and they demselves sabotaging the effort!
man allyuh give it a rest eh! fight for the westindiers not for players just like that, willy nilly possibly because of who they are...only when there is just cause.
when you fight for the nation you fight for the whole and yu correct any side when they are wrong and support all that is proper, right, progressive and benefits all.
I dont see wipa fightring for Sarwan on this issue anywhere. allyuh see wipa out there in there in his cornah dis time?
that is like fighting a battle for someone and they demselves sabotaging the effort!
man allyuh give it a rest eh! fight for the westindiers not for players just like that, willy nilly possibly because of who they are...only when there is just cause.
when you fight for the nation you fight for the whole and yu correct any side when they are wrong and support all that is proper, right, progressive and benefits all.
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Maps what was dumb, stupid! unprofessional, immature, etc...behavior dat the WICB lied to the West Indian people... Tell me if Gibson, Hunte,or Hillaire, certify in the medical field to carry out a physical exam.
Is Gibson qualified to be a coach? IF so, what is his credentials? He was just a bowling coach for England and as we can see the English team is better off without him. Gibson was riding on Andy success. They beat the Aussies in them backyard. How Gibson team did in OZ? Roger Harper and Logie is a better coach than Gibson any day. How come Gibbo tek a pelter in SL? Cause he is just following orders
Gibson is not qualified to coach muchless a medical exam.
Was it Gibson or the WICB the one that refused Sarwan medical treatment in OZ? Then Cricket Australia end up paying for it.
Is Gibson qualified to be a coach? IF so, what is his credentials? He was just a bowling coach for England and as we can see the English team is better off without him. Gibson was riding on Andy success. They beat the Aussies in them backyard. How Gibson team did in OZ? Roger Harper and Logie is a better coach than Gibson any day. How come Gibbo tek a pelter in SL? Cause he is just following orders


Was it Gibson or the WICB the one that refused Sarwan medical treatment in OZ? Then Cricket Australia end up paying for it.
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