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Gils
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Ok, but the sentiment remains the same, one of rewarding failure and incompetence, (plus plagiarism).

I cant support that, or keep repeating myself so now I observe, and let events speak for themselves.
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Assad fudadin has been ruled out of the tour, 17/11 2014 because of injury,

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Including rain delays, SA win the 1st test in less than 2 1/2 days, by and Inns and 220 runs, which is their biggest ever against the West Indies.

West Indies CV 1.33
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2nd Test, Port Elizabeth 26th - 30 th Dec Match Drawn.

A draw was inevitable In a heavily rain affected encounter which saw a total of only 201 overs bowled during five days.

Having picked five bowlers and won the toss to then spend 122 overs toiling in the field the West Indian attack offered nothing by way of competitive value.

The reply, although featuring two centurions, Brathwaite and Samuels, was clearly focused on avoiding further embarrassment but considering the total didn't pass 300, 8 batsmen could only total 70 runs combined while the last 7 wickets fell for just 44 runs I can offer no more than a 2.75 CV rating.

( One point each for Brathwaite and Samuels and 0.75 for the fact this damp squid will be recorded in history as a drawn encounter. )
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Meanwhile,

The standard of cricket within the sub-region will not improve until the Leeward Islands Cricket Association (LICA) and others charged with its development, implement plans and programmes geared towards its progress.

This is according to former West Indies wicketkeeper and head coach of LICA’s senior team, Ridley Jacobs, who said several recommendations have been put to LICA, which are yet to be implemented.

" Things have been put to the board that we need to do even long before this tournament and nothing has been done, so … whatever the board decides we just have to live with it...." You know, we have TDOs and we have all sort of people who are being paid to develop Leeward Islands cricket; now is the time for them to start doing some work and develop Leeward Islands cricket.

As it stands now, we need people involved to help develop the game … because definitely we need help,” he added.

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The standard of cricket within the sub-region will not improve until the Leeward Islands Cricket Association (LICA) and others charged with its development, implement plans and programmes geared towards its progress.

eh eh, someone in the region finally spotting the real reason for the bare cupboard? Looks like throwing more money at them has not been working!!

Where is Afro? there goes your theory of "giving them more money" :D

What you chaps been doing with all the money?!!
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Don't be surprised when they are given even more money to implement these even newer plans as Cameron will need to buy....er.. I mean secure,.... secure votes for re election.

Also expect Anguilla to charge for a new boat plus even more contradiction in 2015 :!:

Ian Allen 12 November 2014
" there is a belief in the players and the programmes that we have put in place to mitigate against the problems we had of coming together from different islands.

I think the communication and camaraderie of the players have also contributed to our performances.

They have bought into what we have tried to instill in them with regards to performance and it is now beginning to pay off, creating healthy competitive environment inside the team ".
Ridley Jacobs 12 November 2014
" I have seen these players and I don’t think they lack ability and talent ".
What did I tell you about that begging bowl, all they have to do is stink out the place then play that off against the incumbent WICB Presidents greed.

It's worked every time :!: .
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Question...

You have two kids, one is smart, well spoken, has a good job and is gonna start a family. The other is not as educated, is struggling to find a job and has been getting into a little trouble of late.

Do you abandon the one going through a hard time and invest all your love and care in the one already doing well? Or do you try with all your might to lift up the one who's not doing so well in the hope that you will one day see BOTH of your kids flourish?




but that is a 'shukular' argument......

the problem is much more than that and needs a more detailed response......

what is the true nature of the problem in LICA..and how much pointed resources do they actually need..or would be useful to them in a sense relative to bang for buck...

how did LICA get to such a low level from being a championship winner, with many players in the west indies side?

if poor management was responsible does such poor management impact the situation currently...and if so how were/are the allocations handled..have they been deployed as targeted :?:
what is the population of Lica :?:

we are prolly not counting more than 150k actual people, on the ground, actually living there.... not counting their diaspora as well..which is usually the case when the LICA population is referred to

given that fact how much money do they need for cricket development..what are the actual figures :?:

it is not only helping the lesser brother or son.. but it must be help to help himself/themselves to proepserity..it really is investment proportional to potential or likely return.

the wicb is not a rich board, is always in deficit. from a business/survival point of view wicb investment must bring returns over and above investment..or the board would collapse.

and from this angle it would make sense that the wicb should be in a coordination frame with the governments up in the LICA which would allocate money for sports annually including money for cricket

to make it easier on the wicb, if they work with the governments on such allocations..to make sure they are in agreement with developmental goals and that the money is accurately targeted to secure the desired results with accountability assured.
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Reading the current lamentations of Mr Lloyd and observing his pining for days of old I’m left in little doubt he, and his colleagues at factories rd, would re embrace every single one of crickets former colonial traditions with open arms, and put up even less resistance if the ICC were to revert back to it’s original title of the Imperial Cricket Council.
Where West Indies is concerned, we have a special case.

We have to fly everywhere. We can't drive anywhere. you can't go by boat either. It's expensive for West Indies to hold Test series.
:?: Did someone say the WICB get Competitive value when the Islands come together :geek: .

Here he subtly introduces the suggestion that the WICB should be eligible for some form of special treatment or accommodation, as in days of old, although it only leaves me thinking more of basket cases than special ones.

I’ll say this again because I think it’s worth repeating, Individual territories aren’t faced with these logistical problems he presents as insurmountable for WICB to pass, so will always be economically more viable propositions as regards a series of cricket match’s.

It’s a denial of reality to believe this pink elephant will go away or can be avoided indefinitely, not in a region where money is tight or a world where capitalism is the only game in town.
It's in high season and we have to compete with that….. Television would help us out in that respect
An open admission that the WICB can’t survive outside of the incubated environment once ensured by the ICC, in a capitalist society where they are both unprepared for and unsuited to the harsh economic reality’s that every single private company on the planet face's daily.

Almost fetal in approach.

Additionally is the implication that Indian viewing figures will continue to sustain the WICB balance sheet for years to come while an alternate strategy has yet to even be conceptualised.
We can't fill the stadium. We don't have the amount of people to do so.
They were a private company the last time I checked. So much for private enterprise.

Every year the WICB, on average, schedule 20 days for test match’s in the Caribbean, 10 for ODI’s and 4 for T20’s = 34 days cricket. I estimate that produces between 50 - 60 000 spectators each year with more than half attending T20’s alone.

The fallacious nature of the appeal is further exposed when it’s proved there is an amateur event in the Caribbean which attracts 90,000 sports fans over only 3 days, every year, from which many sponsors are eager to launch their products.

It is at this stage in proceedings all other sports enterprises I’ve ever heard of, via either the field of sport, a court of law or the demands of their creditors, suffer a relegation, are downsized to accommodate their current status or go into liquidation.
money should be distributed either on rankings or equally
He's twelve months too late....and there is no equal sharing in a capitalist society, worst still, if the British West Indies XI were paid on performance they would have been wound up around 10/15 years ago so what is he really trying to say.

As much sentiment I have for the man - just more proof his audience couldn't have been made up of potential sponsors. That they can’t manage the wuk and openly say so is as about as useful as an umpires call.

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FRAO ENT SEE THIS POST YET..ALL OF IT! BETTER YET HE SHUD STAY AWAY...A HEART ATTACK IS GUARANTEED
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Reading the current lamentations of Mr Lloyd and observing his pining for days of old I’m left in little doubt he, and his colleagues at factories rd, would re embrace every single one of crickets former colonial traditions with open arms, and put up even less resistance if the ICC were to revert back to it’s original title of the Imperial Cricket Council.
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