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Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:38 pm
by mapoui
BallOil wrote:Maps what was dumb, stupid! unprofessional, immature, etc...behavior dat
the WICB lied to the West Indian people... Tell me if Gibson, Hunte,or Hillaire, certify in the medical field to carry out a physical exam.
Is Gibson qualified to be a coach? IF so, what is his credentials? He was just a bowling coach for England and as we can see the English team is better off without him. Gibson was riding on Andy success. They beat the Aussies in them backyard. How Gibson team did in OZ? Roger Harper and Logie is a better coach than Gibson any day. How come Gibbo tek a pelter in SL? Cause he is just following orders

Gibson is not qualified to coach muchless a medical exam.
Was it Gibson or the WICB the one that refused Sarwan medical treatment in OZ? Then Cricket Australia end up paying for it.
westindies can hire a coach and judge his qualifications as they choose. a coach can be qualified academicaly and expeience... or on experienc alone. it is entitrely up to the employer which they prefer in the circumstances
gibson did establish the basis of Sarwans exclusion which I found in the circumstances to be justified. I dont need any such justification anyway. I could see for myself and on 446 at the time I blasted Sarwan the same way i am blasting him here
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:46 pm
by BallOil
Gibson is still NOT coach..he is following orders from them dotties. You missed the part where Sars had runnin with Hillaire...but its aite.. The West Indians people is getting what they deserved when them done with WI cricket! They will remain in the ashes until there is management with accountability, transparency, yada yada.. This third world board need to catch up fass... That will not happen in the near future..
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:49 pm
by mapoui
what ill treatment. if wipa spoke out on sarwan they may have felt some responsbility to speak on the issue. it does not mean they are right.
look mam! we want to bell the wicb cat dont we? that is the point..changing the wicb reforming westndies cricket from the bottom up!
OF WHAT POSITIVE USE WAS SARWANS ATTITUDE DOWN UNDER?
WHAT POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION DID THAT MAKE A THIS TIME SAVE GIVE THE WICB A LEG UP, GIVE CREDENCE TO THEIR CASE ABOUT PLAYER IRRESPONSIBILITY DESPITE THE FACT THEY ARE EXCEEDINGLY WELL PAID TODAY AS OPPOSED TO PREVIOUS TIMES....THAT THE PLAYERS ARE GREEDY AND CARE ONLY FOR THEMSELVES?
HOW DOES REFORM WIN WHEN THEY PALYERS AND THEIR ORGANISATION ARE NOT IN SYNC WITH THE POPULAR MOVEMENT T FOR REFORM?
AND WHY ARE YOU GUYS DEFENDING SARWAN TO SUCH AN EXTENT WHEN THE ISSUE IS CLEAR? WHAT ARE YOU FOR REFORM OF WESTINDIES CRICKET OR THE DEFENCE OF CERTAIN PLAYERS REGARDLESS?
A are you westindian Bally...or somewthing else?
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:58 pm
by mapoui
look here man! in Oz on westindies last tour there Sarwans approach and attitude and ultimate unavailabilty through injury was unconscionable, atrocious, irresponsible, unprofessional and sabotaged westindies effort!
THAT IS WHAT IT WAS AND NO ONE CAN SAY OR PROVE DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT HE..SARWAN..WAS DROPPED FOR IT WAS JUSTIFIED AND RIGHT.
if the wicb handled it as to their incompetent wont it makes little difference to the truth as stated above.
it is equally irresponsibLE for all interested parties to claim differently.
if we are interested in westindies cricket and want its resurgence we must seek and speak the truth at all times about our game, and go for what is right and posItive in our game REGARDLESS OF THE PLAYERS/ADMINISTRATORS INVOLVED,..AND THE SIDE OF ALL RELEVANT ISSUES THAT IS POSITIVE
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:02 pm
by mapoui
BallOil wrote:Gibson is still NOT coach..he is following orders from them dotties. You missed the part where Sars had runnin with Hillaire...but its aite.. The West Indians people is getting what they deserved when them done with WI cricket! They will remain in the ashes until there is management with accountability, transparency, yada yada.. This third world board need to catch up fass... That will not happen in the near future..
wat do you want?
so he had a run in with Hilaire! wat does than mean? wat does it explain? wat does it justify..Sarwans behaviour in Oz?

Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:06 pm
by mapoui
wat accountability in this case?
isnt the wicb being accountable to the westindies when they take Sarwan to task for his irresponsibility?
can the wicb be faulted in this instance?
it seems to me Bally that Sarwans is one of yours and for you and those whose opinion you share, no matter what he does he is right for that reason alone!
well why dont you take that attitude all the way!? take over westindies cricket and do with whatever you fell like doing because you would be the boss. I get the impression that that is all that matters to you and people like the author in that link above!
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:51 pm
by mapoui
Hilaire is not following a dottie programme or the advice of dotties as you imply bally. as far as I see Hilaire is a dottie and has a dottie program, outlook etc., and where he can he pushes a dottie interest.
there is not a damm thing out of context with that in westidnian traditon. that is how it always was and dat is how it always will be unless we become a nation of one.
when Guyanes were in charge that is exactly how Lloyd behaved, people like Roger harper, colin croft, faoud Bacchus etc get pick bbecause Lloyd pik dem.
when the bajans were in charge no differetn and when lara was in charge no different.
wat did allyuh expect that the dotties wold be diffefrent? that is why I knew that sammy would be captain as soos as hilaire and hunte got the excuse right.
and as long as there is no reform from the bottom up that is how it will always be.
one can only hope that at all times such favouritism would be governed by class..pik by fqavour but only quality players.
but even so when players play the arse they have to be belled. facvorutism of course but definetly not foolishness
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:55 pm
by mapoui
Hilaire is not following a dottie programme or the advice of dotties as you imply bally. as far as I see Hilaire is a dottie and has a dottie program as a result. he has to follow no one in dat regard.
there is not a damm thing out of context with that in westidnian traditon. that is how it always was and dat is how it always will be unless we become a nation of one and reform our cricket from the ground up.
when Guyanese were in charge that is exactly how Lloyd behaved, people like Roger harper, colin croft, faoud Bacchus etc get pick bbecause Lloyd pik dem.
when the bajans were in charge no differetn and when lara was in charge no different.
wat did allyuh expect that the dotties wold be diffefrent? that is why I knew that sammy would be captain as soos as hilaire and hunte got the excuse right.
and as long as there is no reform from the bottom up that is how it will always be.
one can only hope that at all times such favouritism would be governed by class..pik by fqavour but only quality players.
but even so when players play the arse they have to be belled. facvorutism of course but definetly not foolishness
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:17 pm
by mapoui
n eventualiotall that tradititional favouritism is wrong! we need to change all that asap. but there is a process of change I belive we have detected and must respect.
the baisc universal law is the product of the people of a nation in decisive movement. revolutionary movement that is! whatever revolutionary people create, having broken with the old regime by coming out in the streets and taking it down and erecting soemthing new in its pace is decisve.
once that takes hold it and becomes the way that society is governed, it must be, and is recongnised internationally for that is the law. there is nothing more basic that tht, that is what the people and that is what they have put in place, even if it was by violent means!
now short of that we have the law as it exist which provides for protest, disgreement and opposition within the law. while that law is in place we are obliged to follow it and make it work for all law I know is based on internatiola principles justice and fair play.
it does not work that way but the turmoil in any society is relavent to the eforts of this or that group seeking..or many or all groups collectively... to make the law work as it should or at least in their favour, short of full revolutionary action.
it is against the law to call for the subverting of that law as far as I know. I subscribe to that. the only thing that supersededs established law is the people in revolution. so it is within such framework I say all I have above. the wicb is lawe, westindies cficket has workled in a certain for a long time, it is failed and we must change it. but short of the westindian people rising up and changin it in revolution I work withing the protest provided in the law.
I can however point out that full revolutuionary change is probably the only way we will achieve the needed changes ultimately, and that the people must consider such aNn eventuality
Re: Sarwan’s fitness is only a front for exclusion from WI t
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:19 pm
by BallOil
who ruining WI cricket to the dawgs ?
How about selection on merit?
Who the WICB answer to?
How can a 20s Devon smith get a contract ahead of 40+ average Sarwan? Sarwan has the second highest average in the team
How can Sammy be cappo and can't mek the test team?
How about transparency and accountability? Why didn't Hunte come and she he pissing away 1M to promote England cricket and paying the regional teams peanuts?