Sammys' passion and commitment?

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mapoui
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BallOil wrote:Maps...everything is irie ...we all kool ..the people don't want change ... 8-)
Di'ze their affair. ultimately I dont give ah eff what deh want and think as opposed to what I se is true. and dis goes for all people, no matter who de are. man have onelife to life and it is begun in lies, lived in and by thelies one is conditioned with from small.

if one doh get a glimpse of what life truly is on the way through, one lives and dies an idiot but convinced deh are not, co-opted to live against their best interests, themsevles literally stolen from themselves and put to the use of others, the prime exploiters of humanity.

I consider the generations for the mid 1940's to about 1980-85, including my own of course, to be generally co-opted, foolish beyond belief, wasted generations actually. we must depend on some coming young generation to for the revolutionary changes that would save the region in a nationalist sense, relative to what we know of the region today. more accurately this is the case with westindians of African origin, the most challenged of all westindians

an example of course is the wicb, skunt Hunte, Hilaire and company. all the Dotties on the westindian cricket boards are satisfied with Dottie control of the wicb. but such control is realising absolutely nothing of value in westindies cricket. Hunte will not leave a legacy of great players and success on the field.

right now Huntes tenure is marked by complete failure, selection of terrible players, a most atrocious and self-defeating selection as captain...and a choice for manager in Richie Richardson dat is questionable in the least, for Richie is hardly a popular figure regionally, and is not known as anything but an old conservative fogey, out of tune with popular player culture
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who is the current dministrsation of westindies cricket working for?

that question is so valid because the westindies do not benefit from all of the incompetence flowing from Factory Road.

paying forrin coaches millions of dollars, hiring a westindian-born coach ultimately, but hamstringing that coach with a Dottie politics that ensures the poorest of selection...hoarding selection commitee appointees of singular careerist attitudes, ensuring obediance and complicty at the wicb, not competence and excellence in behalf of the westindies in administration.

how does all of this benefit westindies? who benefits form all this...Hunte himself, the section of westindian society he represents, the Dots and the Dot people? how do hey benefit..how can they benefit? is it for blac people against for example the rise of Indian power in Titty and BG? if so how does such administrative incompetence prepare blac westindian for dominance and control

the general effect of Dottie performance in charge of westindies cricket actually dumbs the people down, ensures failure, creates antagonistic enmities regionally, so that when the mantle of power ultimately changes hands, the times in westindies cricket is likely to get exceedingly hard for the Dots and players from that section of the region.

if the policies of any leader/party/group regionally of society in general to any of its sub-sections, like cricket, do not leave blac people advanced, developed and capable of competing successfully in the whole world, far less regionally we are lost. i

t is not just a question of circling up the wagons and fcuking around with nosense like Hunte and Hiliare. it is making blakc westindians excellent and competitive in the process.

to effect such development means the opposite of what is happening at Factory Road. it means the opposite of what Eric Gairy and Forbes Burnham did, it means the opposite of the policies that every black0led regional government has effected since the age of regional independence began with Trinidad in 1962
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westindians of Indian descent for example with an internal dynamic that seperates and protects them from the defeatist nonsense westindians of African descent are baggaged with, are developing strongly in the region...and competitively with those of African descent.

there is an isolationist element in the Dots that is opposed to indians and intends to keep them out. that same isolationist element or tendency also keeps out blac westindians and treats blac westindians from BG and the big islands, especially from Titty, with skant respect and great hostility when they live in the Dots or are up there for any reasons and length of time.

at the same time the old enemy, still the enemy white people find free entry and appreciation by Dotties. they have flocked back to the warm region through the Dots in particular and by the 1989 the last time I was there had developed a presence sufficient to begin development of a new westindian racist apartheid that the people of the Dots seemed quite tolerant of..loved it in fact

but in time you cant keep out west-Indians, born in the westindies out of the Dots or anywhere in the region. just as you cant shut down migration in the world it is impossible to keep people out of the Dots...especially also that there are Dotties everywhere in the region outside the Dots. and Dotties have migrated in great numbers outside of the region so much so that there may populations of migrated and derived Dotties in a world diaspora the exceeds the populations of the Dots themselves.
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people like Hilaire and Hunt dont seem to understand that things happen in nature, come into being and stick around because they cant. the minute the can not longer make it they are gone.

this applies to all life, all existence including human beings. once humans cease being fit in the strugle for existence, we will cleanse ourselves from life, from nature, for that is the way nature functions..a self cleansing, self balancing operation that wastes nothing at all.

even if we drop atomic bombs on ourselves nature will use the resulting energy in instantly going on with whatever is possible in the different circumstances. WE are always at risk, not nature so far as I know.

so how does this affect us with the current wicb? when Hunte is done at Factory Road the bblac people of the dots will be far worse off than they were before he arrived. he has done nothing to fosetr their development and everyhting that results in their hurt. if the Dots are afraid of the develoment of Indian power fear is not the way to go. the basty, insular incompetence of Hunte and Hilaire is not the way to go. jkeeping Indians out is not the way to go. keeping anybody who is fit and normal is not the way to go if entry can be afforded

the way to go is to prepare the people of the dots to be competitive with the freaking world, not just westindians of any kind. diversity and fusion has always been the best way forward for humanity. the resulting hybirdization has exploded in human advance on alllevels of our existence
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social and biological hybridization brings all manner of advance, improves the human pedigree and chances of surbvival.

insularity and isolation are enemies of human progress.

class, race and gender antagoisms and divisions are features of human insularity, that results in great human loss, pain and suffering. they are really tactics of the exploitation humanity has imposed on itself for some millenia now.

all barriers human mixing must be brought down. which is why revolutionary democracy is the way forward. such democracy created by the people on the streets of the nations will bring about a levelling of society that would end the doctrines of divide and rule, and insitue in its place one for a collective security, peace and progress

Hilaire, Hunte, at the wicb, and in the governments of the region anser to forrin masters of the westindies, from whom we gained independence, with the oportunity to begin building a truly nationalist and democratic reality. thse type who led us refused to accept tha opportunity and sold themselves to the old master, simply occupied masters old position over the people and now served him from afar, against the westindian people.

they now continue to ruin all that is westindian, all that the people have built up over the centuries...including the people themselves. as I said when Hunte is done westindies cricket will still be flat on its back, worse than when he met it. and the people of the Dots will have one more burden to bear...and all who Huntes policies are geared to keep out will be stronger while black people in the region will be weaker

this is why scholars like Tittys Anthony Martin asked the question of Titty.."are Tittys blac population and endangered species?"
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Martin asked that question because after almost 50 years of misleadership by Eric Williams and the PNM, including Chambers and Manning, NAR's Robinson and UNC's Panday, blac Tittys are far worse off than other segments of the Titty popuation.

Blac Tittys have little presence in the national economy, are declinging numerically as part of the population..have declined from a great majority to a much smaller segment in just 50 years which is part of my lifetime..while communities that were basically blac are ridden with crime of a most atrocious quality

that is the product of the work of people like Hunte. and just imagine he was once close to becoming St Lucias prime minister, the leader of one of the political parties there. Hunte during those times was even described socialist, activist and such superlaives intended to portray him as a positive factor in the westinian political process.

but that is what the media does when it wants an asshole accepted as a leader of the people..to lead them god knows where.

so the south BG and Titty are coming up but led by a strong west-Indian complement, administratively if not on the field of play, backed by BG's huge potential and Tittys money. this development ought to be stopped in no way akin to what Hunte and Hilaire may be up to. May be up to for I dont know if they are in fact so focused. but there is that strong suspicion that the work they are doing now is surely motivated to whatever extent by such a possibility or development.

the answer is black fitness, competitiveness, capabilty to develop and complete the black interest in the process, to earn black security and place in the westindian sun and keep it secure indefinetly. such security cannot be accomplished in isolation, must be accomplisehd in the full press of westindian integration. it is in fact part of the proces o social integration of the westindies region, which would be the end result of the fitness of all parts of the process
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black fitness depends on the develoment of true democracy and independence in the region as a whole, up the Dots most particularly. black leadership must give up its most disgusting brown-nosing, pandering and sell-out to masters whom we never needed to subject ourselves so abjectly to.

we must do something about the sick love and fear and adoration we have developed for the white skin. we love a white blond, blue-eyed jesus who absolutely never existed. Absolute Chronology now proves wihout a doubt that Jesus as portayed in the bible, of any skin colour, never existed at all.

not only is it known, proved, that there was no jesus who was martyred on any cross for the sins of humnaity, it is known where such a story originated and its successive re-incarnations in every culture all over the world by humans, through time.

Black history, the history of the human species in truth and detail has been reclaimed, found and dusted-off and is there to for use to reclaim black minds and life globally. such history must become part of the westindian schools agenda, taught in such a way that it incorpates truthfully the history of all the people. which is easy...hardly rocket science now that all the bull work has been done.

we are suckers for faith and belief, especially for the christian faith which must be the greatest fabrication, house of lies and sin, the most atorcious natural desecration ever conceived and effected by man against man. Christianity followed by Judaism, and Islam are lies, ones for the guiness book of records under cultural lies..or religious lies.

black westindians must get over all this by evolving the leadership capble of leading the people truthfully. or else the people get up, and taking matters into their own hands elongate policies to the effect that what causes our problems are eliminated by the institution of material and intellectual factors that would solve them
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Bally, look wah you do...all this talk about Sammy's passion mek Maps passion raise!! :lol: :lol:

Maps, tek it easy bro. Naw tek worries. WI society gone to the dogs. The few good people left in the WI are hitting their heads against the wall.

Is not only blacks, Indos too !

Look at Chetty...ran the guyana board for about 20 years...what did he produce? More of the same crap we were used to!
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Googley wrote:Bally, look wah you do...all this talk about Sammy's passion mek Maps passion raise!! :lol: :lol:

Maps, tek it easy bro. Naw tek worries. WI society gone to the dogs. The few good people left in the WI are hitting their heads against the wall.

Is not only blacks, Indos too !

Look at Chetty...ran the guyana board for about 20 years...what did he produce? More of the same crap we were used to!
Googs,
Thanks for counseling my fren Maps. Its hard to turn your back when you know it is wrong but I guess it the right thing to do.

Mapoui...doh fret bro 8-)

BTW, it was Huckle who started this and gaan
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wat fret! I not frettin'! allyuh ent see the argument! it is calculated to clarify and energise good movement

dem fellers run everything down. people dying, crime run-amok, cricket dying...allyuh know de story.

we have to put blame where it lies and let who pass-by know.
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