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Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:01 am
by Gils
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link

Or, as you say
a competition is only as strong as its weakest team
In order to reach the level of the educated yout, the uneducated yout must improve his skills/chances of survival, through education.

The educated yout cant answer exam questions for him or lend qualifications for job interviews so he will have to make sacrifices and draw on the resources that are available to him in order to do so for self.

(1) making extra time to learn from educated family members
(2) raise funds for college by working extra / sometimes unnatural hours, occasionally in conditions that arent always ideal.
(3) educate himself, in the library or online
(4) take full responsibility and stop hoping other people will do for him what he must do for himself.

THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS TO SUCCESS :!: :!: :!:

Veiwed thru the lens of " competitive value " and " franchise " cricket LICA will have to do at least one of the above or face the possibility of relegation......oh, I forgot, there is no relegation being proposed in this particular variant of a standard franchise model.

Which brings me nicely onto (2)

:?: How much " competitive value " do the 8th placed West Indies offer to test cricket in a pool of only 10 teams :lol: :lol:

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:04 pm
by Gils
do you try with all your might to lift up the one who's not doing so well in the hope that you will one day see BOTH of your kids flourish
Your head must be very hard, how many times do I have to tell you, hope is not a strategy that success is founded on.

The nature of competitive sport means there can be only one winner at any given time.

What your dream franchise scenario also fails to recognise is every league in every sport has perennial cella dwellas, LICA are simply playing out their designated role.

If you cant deal with that then tuff, but don't blame or try to take it out on me, I'm just the messenger and didn't make the rules up lol

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:54 pm
by Gils
The nature of competitive sport means there can be only one winner at any given time.
Having reflected on the the truth in this statement I now see the intent in your question. (btw, its a poor comparison because the dunce/uneducated yout will never attain the exact same level of intelligence as the brainbox/educated pickney)

:lol: I hope those pointers are an aid to you in your chosen field, whatever that may be, good luck, you're welcome :lol: :lol:

(1) making extra time to learn from educated family members
(LICA coaching, playing staff and management to visit best systems throughout region).
(2) raise funds for college by working extra / sometimes unnatural hours, occasionally in conditions that arent always ideal.
(meet and greet events where fans pay money for players cricket gears - world cup tops, practice sessions, golf events etc).
(3) educate himself, in the library or online
(Buy a bowling machine or get local corporate sponsors, get in the gym, train longer hours)
(4) take full responsibility and stop hoping other people will do for him what he must do for himself.
( don't be affraid to make tuff choices and dont put things off because they look difficult)

There you go, just make sure I get some credit when you think about representing it as an original idea back here in 6 months time. :lol:

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:58 am
by AFRO
LOL i ask a simple question and mc sidepiece get him knickers (which were no doubt bought by Mike) in a massive TWIST!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

He's merely a skunt who will never budge from his radical "jam should go it alone" agenda..even though like i've said before JAM DON'T HAVE THE STRUCTURE TO "GO IT ALONE"...they are also far behind when it comes to producing test standard players in recent years...but no doubt he will keep babbling the same tedious bullsh/t :roll: .

The bottom line is WE ARE NOT LIKE YOUR BELOVED ENGLAND...we don't have a massive population to pick from so the notion that Leewards should be "dumped" is just plain SILLY and merely a reflection of how dumb you are.

If Leewards produce two good players every three years that's more than enough...the results they have is SECONDARY DUNCY!!...it's WI FIRST, regional sides SECOND.

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:31 am
by Gils
.we don't have a massive population to pick from so the notion that Leewards should be "dumped" is just plain SILLY
:?: Can you show us all where I said dump LICA.. :geek: Either on this thread or elsewhere.....

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:12 am
by Gils
i ask a simple question


And got a simple answer :lol:, If you really cared about LICA's " competitive value " you would have voiced those concerns, directly.

You ask a question that has nothing to do with competitive value but is all about ideas you haven't authored but want to get credit for.

Knowing all this I still answer, while simultaneously overlooking the fact you've purposely ignored the many I've asked you.

Here are a few
How much " competitive value " do the 8th placed West Indies offer to test cricket in a pool of only 10 teams
following that(your) logic WICBC should be allocating its greatest funds to the elements that provide the least " competitive value ". that would be St Maarten, BVI, USVI, Monsterrat and Anguilla, :?: is that what you're supporting
why do a disproportionate amount of funds go to LICA when Jamaica's club structure is in need of just as much attention.
how many Jamaicans will block LICA U23's progress to the first XI.

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:27 am
by Gils
the bottom line is POPULATION you stupud fool...without coming together caribbean cricket would be insignificant...it's that simple
You're stuck on this population red herring, that comes with being a dot I suppose.

If population size is so critical, :?: how do NZ, 3 million people, beat the British West Indies team, 6 million people, home and away, with ease.....

How do Aus, 20 million people, beat England, 60 million people or Bangladesh, 100 million people.

India have the most money, best structure and biggest population 300 million, by your reasoning they should be eternal cricket champs, but the liks England are giving them shows that faulty thinking for what it is.

Nevertheless, if your logic was correct LICA would be destined never to rise to prominence in WI cricket.......because...their population is too small.

One way or another you will have to make your mind up. but there's no having your cake and eating it on this one.

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:51 am
by Gils
the cycle Leewards’s are going through can potentially happen to any of the regional teams.
Was offered on the " saving Leewards " thread.
So affers, would you like to show us when, exactly, Leewards were at the heights of that cycle.

Failure to do so proves beyond doubt that they have never been at the pinnacle of WI cricket, a which point we may finally put that tired fallacy to rest.

Having accepted the obvious-they have never been prime movers in WI cricket, allows you to consider these statements with greater clarity, and absence of romantic sentiment.

the nature of competitive sports means there can be only one winner at any given time

THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS TO SUCCESS

If its also accepted that every league in every sport has perennial cella dwellas then I'm at a loss to see what it is you're fighting for, except relevance..:...and a disproportionate amount of ICC handouts.

In fact, if you really cared about LICA's progress you would ask what the reasons are behind their amatuer approach to a professional sport, for over 30 years.

As things stand today you don't even come close :!:
Scoring imaginary points about uneducated kids seems to matter more to you than LICA's plight, as long as the grant money keeps coming in you nice eh, no matter the degree of dysfunction.

Fans like you deserve LICA's plight, carry on smartly.

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:43 am
by AFRO
Gils wrote:
:?: Can you show us all where I said dump LICA.. :geek: Either on this thread or elsewhere.....
YOU'RE the one talking about "value"...so what the hell are you trying to get at? if you don't want them dumped why does "competitive value" matter to you so much? :roll:

Re: Competitive value

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:57 am
by AFRO
Gils wrote:
the cycle Leewards’s are going through can potentially happen to any of the regional teams.
Was offered on the " saving Leewards " thread.
So affers, would you like to show us when, exactly, Leewards were at the heights of that cycle.

Failure to do so proves beyond doubt that they have never been at the pinnacle of WI cricket, a which point we may finally put that tired fallacy to rest.

Having accepted the obvious-they have never been prime movers in WI cricket, allows you to consider these statements with greater clarity, and absence of romantic sentiment.

the nature of competitive sports means there can be only one winner at any given time

THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS TO SUCCESS

If its also accepted that every league in every sport has perennial cella dwellas then I'm at a loss to see what it is you're fighting for, except relevance..:...and a disproportionate amount of ICC handouts.

In fact, if you really cared about LICA's progress you would ask what the reasons are behind their amatuer approach to a professional sport, for over 30 years.

As things stand today you don't even come close :!:
Scoring imaginary points about uneducated kids seems to matter more to you than LICA's plight, as long as the grant money keeps coming in you nice eh, no matter the degree of dysfunction.

Fans like you deserve LICA's plight, carry on smartly.
BWAHAHAHAHA what the hell is he yapping about now? :shock: bottom line like i've said A MILLION TIMES ALREADY..the leewards structure has been the only PISS POOR structure in the region because your beloved JAMAICA'S is too...and so is winwards. Secondly these teams ARE THERE TO PROVIDE WI WITH PLAYERS...how they do in regional competition is NOT that important..but i guess because you're a phony "militant" Jamaican who doesn't even reside in the country you're more concerned about Jamaica "winning six titles" than how many TEST QUALITY players they have provided over recent years...and here's a hint..IT'S NOT A LOT!!.

Leewards could stay at the bottom for the next 30 years for all i care...if they produce two quality WI players every three years they would have done their jobs...FULL STOP. The fact is Ambrose and Viv are BETTER THAN ANY JAMAICAN THAT EVER PLAYED FOR WI BAR HEADLEY!!..and i know that must BUNN you :lol: :lol: :lol: