West Indies Cricket Fans

what would you do politically if people disagree with you..enough people to provide you with serious opposition

suppose you get some traction originally and up pops real opposition..what would you do

see what I mean

the way you talk suggests that you would get seriously dictatorial. but that would defeat any progress you have in mind.

look at Venezuela: with a serious monopoly in hand Chavez could have done a lot of arbitrary clandestine evil to his opposition. they deserved it. none more evil than they had been to the ordinary people of Venezuela.

but you cannot start a positive dispensation by the same evil you had fought against and won. you political behavior must be consistent with the new dispensation you are creating. that must be seen to happen, demonstrated, effected, and the way to deal with your opposition is within the law.
now that you must be rigid with. you must be always making the law fair, updating it, changing the old exploitative punishment of ordinary people..you must make the law democratic and rigid about its fair and justified application. and in that process if your opposition break the law then they are dealt with accordingly

but as long as they are inside the law you have to deal with them on a political basis and only that. if you are going to have democracy you have to practice it, have confidence and faith in what you see is good and right, that it will work out in the end with its constant developing accuracy, justice and general social benefit

so you talk sports but you have a nationalist perspective. you have to be careful. its what you want and what is possible..and your understanding of it. you will have opposition regardless. if your point is a cooperative society then you have an idea that would transcend opposition for that is a transcendent goal.

but on the way you have to deal with society as you meet it and help in the transformation.. lead it positively and so on. you cant cut off your foot to spoil your leg. you cant engage in what you are opposed to and hope to succeed..

but you see what I mean...

And it appears you find little trouble in confining me to " rigid ideological " terms like fascist. Some might say you approached the task with no little enthusiasm

again..it is a question of limited likely emotionally restricted interpretation of what I say.

if I describe myself in a certain manner, it does not necessarily compute that I hold you to be the exact opposite

if I describe myself in a certain manner, it does not necessarily compute that I hold you to be the exact opposite

False assertion, and once again intellectually offensive.

You labelled me fascist and separist BEFORE you abandoned that approach and went on to loosely describe yourself as absent of a " rigid ideological perspective ".

BEFORE, not after

So as it stands, you cant answer this question

Is it " nationalist nonsense " for Jamaica, or any other country on earth, to participate in athletics or football as a nation.

So what makes cricket any different

So choose to labe me a fascist and seperatist instead, only to then suggest I only came to that conclusion based on your own description of yourself.

Really, mapOui.

i DOH KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOU AGAIN! WHAT....

you take every literally, straight, narrow, limited. i could have mean a few tangents on that call as I have already said. what it was o do was to stimulate debate most particularly.

you choose to take literally and go all emotional on it.

well that is your choice. what you think I am hard trying to prove the contrary to you, that I am in some way apologetic and fearful of you choosing the 'wrong' unmeant tangent?

no you know. you can believe what you want.

how does it mean anything to me beyond whats going on here?

it does not! help yuhself. enjoy

yer welcome

Is it " nationalist nonsense " for Jamaica, or any other country on earth, to participate in athletics or football as a nation.

So what makes cricket any different

" You don't know what to do ".

All you had to do is answer the question but I suspect you'll simply run off, while claiming " you have nothing to prove ".

You know maPoui in the time I spent on the fan you were a source of much knowledge and understanding, regarding many different things, and I hope you do realise that and how grateful I really am, but.....you're well outta shape on this one.

I simply asked for SOVEREIGN RIGHTS to be upheld in international cricket equally as they are in athletics and football and that was enough for you to call me fascist.

I let that pass, so you go on to suggest said defense of SOVEREIGN RIGHTS has me in league with nazi's and will lead to oppression such as the Israeli's currently inflict upon Palestinians.

I correct your faulty thinking so you abandon your emotive claims to ask, what is moral high ground, before going on to declare you are not bound by " rigid ideological perspectives " .

All par for your course and to be expected, but .......Trivially using the suffering of millions and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents to advance an emotive cyberspace agenda is despicable, even for you.

I can only hope those very same innocents are NOT " waiting for YOU with rods of punishment, in hell ".

the way you talk suggests that you would get seriously dictatorial.

hopefully the ancestors are waiting with rods of punishment, for a long time in hell

I'll say this for you, you sure know how to defeat your own argument.