4th ODI: West Indies v Pakistan at Bridgetown

[mapoui]

Simmons hits another six!

yes! but just like that he throws it away!

[howzdat]

I was just thinking like we all afraid to say anything! Yes, poor shot selection given that Sarwan had just been dismissed. Nonetheless he has shown enough to be worthy of his place in the squad.

Now we have Samuels and Dwayne at the crease - the last pair of recognised batsmen and just like that the match situation changes.

Rain is coming. WI on par with the D/L asking rate at the end of the 29th over - 148 for 4.

Given that the batsmen don't know what is going on with the D/L someone from the management team should come out to tell the batsmen the exact situation - instead they are giving hand signals from the pavilion!

Bravo hits a six!

Rain and the players are off.

Were the match to end now WI just ahead of the D/L par score and so they would win.

[mapoui]

was just thinking like we all afraid to say anything! Yes, poor shot selection given that

simmons was really irresponsible there. I would caution him strongly for such batting. in Oz deh wud drop him for that

[hdresden]

Wow! Haters, Simmons making 50+ every innings. When last we had any WI. batsman do so. Sawan and samuels bat so slowly that he has to force the issue every time.

[hdresden]

talk about Edwards who not ready and Sammuels who bats slower than Shiv. and a Captain who cant make the team batting , bowling or as an allrounder really. Talk about Roach who took two wickets but cant keep the run rate down. But not the highest scorer on the team.

[howzdat]

Wow! Haters, Simmons making 50+ every innings. When last we had any WI. batsman do so. Sawan and samuels bat so slowly that he has to force the issue every time.

If you took the time to follow our recent conversations on the site you will see that our comments have NOTHING to do with hatred.

We are acknowledging the continued good performances that Simmons is turning in while at the same time reaffirming the need for someone in the WI team to take responsibility for seeing things through to the end once they get in.

To labour the point, I suggest that you look at the scorecard of the Pakistan innings and see how apart from the two top scorers the remainder of the batting didn't contribute much at all. Nonethless the team scored almost 250!Why? Because 2 of the batters took the responsibility to ANCHOR the innings.

Now, let me ask you a question, given the recent history of WI batting can you put your hand on your heart and say that WI would get 250 from the current position of 1540-4?!!!

Unless you are deluded the honest answer is no, therefore notwithstanding Simmons continued good performance you can well understand that it is imperative for someone in his position to bat through the innings. What the use mek 70 and out and the team lose???!!!

If you check recent history and statistics in all forms of cricket you may find that WI batsmen have scored a lot of centuries in LOSING causes.. I think that Gayle even scored a triple century and the team still lost! Not to mention the unrewarded efforts of Brian Lara or Shivanarine Chanderpaul.

And we talking about all those things that you mention - just spend some time looking around the site and you will see. So before you bandy about such ill-informed comments about people who you do not know take time to check your facts! Thanks

[hdresden]

Then the problem is that the middle is soft. We dont want a situation where every match we depend on one batman batting through the innings. others must stand up or be dropped.

[howzdat]

Then the problem is that the middle is soft. We dont want a situation where every match we depend on one batman batting through the innings. others must stand up or be dropped.

I see your point and i agree with your sentiments. However, I invite you to look again at cricket history and see for instance how many one day games West Indies won by 10 wickets chasing some big totals. I Invite you to check. Haynes and Greenidge have some of the best opening partnerships recorded in the game and they played against some good bowlers.

Now, if I am playing in a team where i know that the openers or any of the batters before me are so good that they can chase down 250 you bet that when i get my chance in the middle order I gonna try my damn best to ensure that no bowler gonna get my wicket cos i play some loose shot. We are saying that this has to be the psychology of every wi batsman.

So you are right, competition is also an issue but given where the team coming from right now every batsman has to sell his wicket very very expensively every time he bats.

I agree that Smith and Edwards should be dropped.

I think that the captain should make way however he on a one year captaincy deal and i don't think the selectors gonna go back on that irregardless of his performances.

No offence meant - so don't dig any horrors via my tone or anything I have said - but we all tired of loving the game and seeing we side lose. It hurts bad, bad, bad and we all want things to improve.

One love.

[howzdat]

Wow! Haters, Simmons making 50+ every innings. When last we had any WI. batsman do so. Sawan and samuels bat so slowly that he has to force the issue every time.

Simmons has another option. When the new batsman comes in Simmons says, "Look, I have been in since the start of the innings and I am seeing the ball big. I have faced all the bowlers and I know where I can pick up ones and twos at a steady rate. I can also hit at least one boundary per over.

I will give you the strike for 2 or 3 balls per over. You just bat with conviction, playing each ball on its merit without taking silly risks but try to score one or two runs per over. When you are in and you start to up the tempo I will do the same ...BUT DO NOT THROW YOUR WICKET AWAY!!

Now this is what I call maturity and managing the innings. If the management team has not coached the team in this basic fundamental approach to building an innings then Simmons has to take the bull by the horns - on the basis of his good performances - and TELL the incoming batsman what he expects of him while they bat together.

He does not have to play a silly shot and get out for 70.

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