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Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:25 pm
by mapoui
Man please, how does horse racing come into this. And you miss the point about the commentator. He was talking about an actual situation, not something he made up.
man yu dont hear what I say :?

stop limiting yuhself. the principles of handicapping horse are applicable generally. very accurate.

I head what rthe commentator said. he converses with a player and his impression is that players opinions are determined by how they do against each other.

and I am saying fine as far as dat goes. but that does not make their assessments law. as an objective analysyst dependong on yoru skill you can see and know players and game situatiosn better than all of them there.

and the principles of handicapping horse can be a big help in that regard. and when I really understand a coming race I can often tell when trainers are wrong about their horses even though that are with them every day and I am far away.

so the commie and the player can say what they wish. if I discover they are wrong they they are wrong thats all. I can also discover they are indeed right too..when they are.

look here..based on my handicapping ability I told this board that Sammy would be made westindies captain long before he was appointed. explained why! you can go back in the archives and see for yourself. I also pointed to Sammy scoring a ton in that england test with Samuels..the second was it! I explained that too :D :D :D

and as far as Cook is concerned...sure the saffies had some organised outlook on his batting which turned out ot be in need of updating..and update they did. Cook from that first ton went steadily downhill. explain the how of that then..why dont ya if its not what I said it is?

things change all the time, people adjust requiring adjustments all around.

but all this is quite obvious..why do yu have to ask questions on them and I have to explain what are simplicities :?

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:02 am
by Arnik
mapoui wrote:man yu dont hear what I say :?
stop limiting yuhself. the principles of handicapping horse are applicable generally. very accurate.
I heard what you said loud and clear but don't agree with the horse racing thing.
mapoui wrote:and I am saying fine as far as dat goes. but that does not make their assessments law. as an objective analysyst dependong on yoru skill you can see and know players and game situatiosn better than all of them there.
Bingo, mapoui knows better than anyone else cause of........too long to list.
mapoui wrote:and the principles of handicapping horse can be a big help in that regard. and when I really understand a coming race I can often tell when trainers are wrong about their horses even though that are with them every day and I am far away.
And you know better than the horse trainer - damn, you good.
mapoui wrote:look here..based on my handicapping ability I told this board that Sammy would be made westindies captain long before he was appointed. explained why! you can go back in the archives and see for yourself.
Bro, anybody following WI cricket knew that Sammy would be appointed captain so you were not telling the world something that only you worked out.
mapoui wrote: I also pointed to Sammy scoring a ton in that england test with Samuels..the second was it! I explained that too
Yeah, even a broken clock is right twice a day - ha ha ha ha
mapoui wrote:Cook from that first ton went steadily downhill. explain the how of that then..why dont ya if its not what I said it is?
I explained it but as you were not listening.

All this from a man who did not SEE one ball during the series. You remind me of Lord Nelson - 'Liar" - ha ha ha ha ha.

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:09 am
by mapoui
All this from a man who did not SEE one ball during the series. You remind me of Lord Nelson - 'Liar" - ha ha ha ha ha.
no no no! I watched! its to hand right here man.

I have screens and can watch several thngs at the same time or easily move from one screen to the next. so I watched..but not like you apparently did..all of it.

I wanted to see philander too...stine and morkel....Roberts, Holding, Daniel an Holder they are not.

I also wanted to get a glimpse f my fave saffie wats his name..bating at #7

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:11 am
by mapoui
Bro, anybody following WI cricket knew that Sammy would be appointed captain so you were not telling the world something that only you worked out.
that I can assure yu is quite wrong.

your confidence of expression in this is surely based on hindsight..whether you are conscious of it or not. or not I think! :o :o
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:50 am
by mapoui
Bingo, mapoui knows better than anyone else cause of........too long to list.
yu 'star postering' again! narrow and not reading properly.

it is possible depending on the quality of your analysis to see greater accuracy that others who according to their position are usually held to know more.

they do in fact know more but I have discovered that as a handicapper I usually know a lot about the situation under consideration and often I discover I knew actually more than those closer to the action, who actually hanndle the sitatuion

I can list many examples..and if you were to hand I could demonstrate it to you. and if before a race comes up I understand in time I will put it up here as I did a few times before.

on sammys ton..a method I use suddenly opened up in my mind and I realised that a cylce was at hand most likely and sammy would score. cycle theory is very important in horse handicappin as well as in life.

when and where people have been most comfortable in life, happy and content, feeling good they do well. its the same with horses. when circumstances/situations also configure to repeat themselves what happened before can happen again..in life as a whole and in all subsets..like horse racing. that is what produces your improbable results, the unexpected that pays off huge.

once you have a lot of detail in your head and have an idea about cycles then when one such is about to occur it can become clear i you mind what is about to happen and yu can predict it. if you are or were looking for it even better.

so if yu have the complete record of all the horses in a race and the race itself is a lil impenetrable, does not yiled easily to conventional handicapping...you can lok for cycles that are occurring n the race..if he ran at the tract before, at the same distance, at roughy the same time of year and won.

and key would be the trainer...if the trainer is the same..and if the horse had won in the interim. if he had not even better...and better still had he been running at a bigger track anbd ta a higher class.

yu see trainers consciously or unconsciously look for the optimum conditions for their hoses to win. so if the trainer is the same that would be a sing that he knows and brought the hose back to where he last won, when the opportunity presented itself.

most times very at the track few people are looking at such potentials. usually on paper the horse looks in pretty bad form, has done little to demonstrate he is capable running well. that harldy matters. the fact is he is 'home' and will run well and likely win..that that circumstance configures totally in his favour.

you can apply the same principle to human society and it works..all the time....

look here! based on this principle..cycle theory... I tell you that it is almost impossibe for humanity to avoid a nuclear war within the next 2 to 5 years...in fact the thing may happen as early as next year.

as I tuype this I assure you that that is in fact the case. all the cyclic ingredients are there. it is the way things go. unavoidable unless humanity can get its collective head out of abstractions under life fully from materialist standpoint and live accordingly.

just analysis armik my bwoy..see what has been happening all the time and why..you will see that there are all kinds of potential but human life is disciplined by factors of surviva that homogenises it all the tme..makes the repetitions we go through the same, emphazing all that will cause war, keeping the social conditions inplace, conditiong human behavouir in consistent predictable ways.

but at the same time there are flows of potential positive and negative that ought to be parts of our consciousness that we dismiss because they do not fit the status quo, no one os rewarded for such thinking , truth and development. they are rewarded for the lies whcih keep the established way going.

so we come to a point as now where the great weight of tradition tilts in dire way to a system that is old, corrupt, lying and wrong and out of sync with the developmental flow of life. the majority of people in the old world by the way we all have been schoolded do not know all this, cannot think in the new ways required for survival. even if the truth slaps them all in the face, every day

but only a new way of social organisation, fully democratic, can take proper control of that flow, powerful, new, born out of the old and ready to go. but the old way wont let it rise for to do that it would mean the the old way acccepts its fate and voluntarily ends itself.

that is not the way the old way has been trained, conditioned, ow it has led the world. they do not know that kind of thinking, acceptance of truth. they have all the wealth. they wont give it up. they will go along risking the planet itself. they do nto care.

that is the way they have lived for thousands of years. that is how they have met and now meet al their crises..with manipulation reagrdles of consequences, violence no matter how many die, war ultimately and all the time profiting from all such activity for the make everythgng that is used in manipulation, war etc. it is a way that feeds on itself as all social processes that gets going feeds on itself

so the old way, with its mindset and actual systematic established structure in place is detemined to be permananet. but the new is always undeniable. ask the peole in the cemeteries.

those who represent the new way equally, cannot afford the old to engulf them with its old maljo hands. such clashes has always meant violences in exploitative society. such clashes have always finished in the end of the old way and the new way that it gave rise to coming in. no old and dying thing or way can stand..nothing is forever.

by the means of the day nothing can suvive this current clash..a clash as I said that has happend many times in human social evolution..a recurring process, that is required every so often by the build-up particularly of technological change, to revolutionise society and take it forward.

the way society revolutionises itself has been violent up to now because it has come out of exploitative society in which human violence is entrenched, endemic, produced by the exploitation of social class by social class

if and when society manages to establish a democracy that adress the needs of all people, ends exploitation adn social classes organized around exploitation, endemic violence will be eliminate, making all future revolutionary changes conscious and peaceful negotiated processes

the means humans have totday for violence are total so we are most likely toast..soon..unless the genrality of human beings wake up and take the power frm the elits inasnites and establish the very democracy that will eliminate the class basis of society and save humanity.

there is no other outcome in which humanity can survive.

if we had the time I could demonstrate this to you fully. but you know already. so enjoy whats left.

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Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:15 am
by mapoui
J P Duminy.
I saw him score a ton against the Oz early. but I wondered what hapenned to him..what with his batting that had gone so south they had relegated him to shorter versions.

he looks ok now!

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:35 am
by Arnik
mapoui wrote:no no no! I watched! its to hand right here man.
You already said that you did not watch any of the series.
mapoui wrote:I wanted to see philander too...stine and morkel....Roberts, Holding, Daniel an Holder they are not.
You really need to stop smoking whatever you smoking.

Steyn, Philander and Morkel are better than Holder and arguably better than Daniel.

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:39 am
by Arnik
mapoui wrote:that I can assure yu is quite wrong.
your confidence of expression in this is surely based on hindsight..whether you are conscious of it or not. or not I think! :o :o
Bro, once Hilaire got on board and the shyte started with the senior players it was fairly evident what the plan was.

It did not require the genius of mapster to see that - ha ha ha ha ha ha.

It also does not require genius to see that once Kirk regains his test place (and he will) he will move smoothly into the captain's seat.

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:23 am
by mapoui
You already said that you did not watch any of the series.
I watched some of the series armik. I watched..a glimpse almost every day they played..selectively.

if I conveyed an impression that i did not wacth at all well what can I do. but I play with you all the time but yu take it all seriously.

that is not my fault :o

Re: In a matter of hours SA will be test #1

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:26 am
by mapoui
Steyn, Philander and Morkel are better than Holder and arguably better than Daniel.
well Daniel and Holder were a unit with Roberts and Holding during 1976 the english tour. they were just about gone after that -Holder -so a comparison may not be accurate.

Daniel was back for a bit later but not much