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Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:00 pm
by Googley
Like I say to the Lara critics, flat track or not, he scored! the other 23 players in that particular games did not! He showed that he is head and shoulders above them!
However, it showed that also that WI cricket standard is so low that a reject from another country is looking like a star among our boys!
Instead of developing our cricket and cricketers, our admins are busy pushing their own incompetent home boys.
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:03 pm
by AFRO
mapoui wrote:
skin colour is entirely relevant in the westindian context. skin colour touches everything westindian currently, historically. snares situation cannot be discussed save in terms of skin colour!
unless we are dealing with blind people in denial of their reality!
My point is IT SHOULDN'T BE, we've had good white players in the past who were part of a great WI team like Jackie Hendricks, we've had great Asian players like Kanhai and Shiv and of course countless great black players like Viv, Marshall, Lara to name a few, if we produced a great white player today i would be over the moon and why? BECAUSE WI WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM IT, just like i'd love us to produce the next Murali!!, we can't keep looking backwards and dwell on things that have happened in the past, THIS IS JUST A GAME MAN, if we're talking about proper racial issues on the streets then fair enough talk away but it's not that deep man.
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:12 pm
by mapoui
My point is IT SHOULDN'T BE, we've had good white players in the past who were part of a great WI
it shouldnt be but it is. dont you know the history of westindies cricket, born and grew in racism?
racism will done when and if we build a democraric socialist reality, focused on the development of the society and all the people in it.
if you have exploitative society it mus' be divided and you have to look for the divisions that exist, that have been created for exploitative purposes, to explain the sitaution. in our case RACE is the biggest, most destructive, manufactured divisive tool that facilitates our exploitation
if you eiminate exploitative society and place the interest of the people as the basis on which a democracy functions you get rid of the divisions, and people can live in peace, developing prosperity, non-racialism etc
wat you refuse to do is to come to know your society, how it came to be, how it functions, what threatens it, and what to do to eliminate the threats and to make it better. it seems you have no idea about all dat and talk idealisms with no idea how to realise how to make anything like them real
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:23 pm
by BallOil
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:31 pm
by AFRO
mapoui wrote:
wat you refuse to do is to come to know your society, how it came to be, how it functions, what threatens it, and what to do to eliminate the threats and to make it better. it seems you have no idea about all dat and talk idealisms with no idea how to realise how to make anything like them real
And you seem to be a bitter person stuck in a world that has long passed, we have white, black and Asian players in the team right now and we're one of the few teams IN THE WORLD to have such a mix of players, and yet you talk like we're still in the 1950s!!

, GET A GRIP, in 2011 WI is a team that gives all players a chance REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACIAL BACKGROUND, and yet it's people like you who seem to have a problem with that and want to take us backwards!!, stop living in the past please and get with reality.
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:33 pm
by AFRO
A 36 year old out of form batsman that's living on PAST GLORIES?!!
Like i said before he hasn't been dropped TWICE recently for nothing!!

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Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:38 pm
by BallOil
AFRO wrote:
A 36 year old out of form batsman that's living on PAST GLORIES?!!
Like i said before he hasn't been dropped TWICE recently for nothing!!

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That is current rankings ...as of today April 6th, 2011

Who dropped Shiv in test recently... which fielder?

Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:41 pm
by AFRO
BallOil wrote:
That is current rankings ...as of today April 6th, 2011

Who dropped Shiv in test recently... which fielder?

Nope those points are what he's built up over a certain period of time, because he was average in 2010 having failed in SL already!!

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Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:52 pm
by mapoui
AFRO wrote:mapoui wrote:
wat you refuse to do is to come to know your society, how it came to be, how it functions, what threatens it, and what to do to eliminate the threats and to make it better. it seems you have no idea about all dat and talk idealisms with no idea how to realise how to make anything like them real
And you seem to be a bitter person stuck in a world that has long passed, we have white, black and Asian players in the team right now and we're one of the few teams IN THE WORLD to have such a mix of players, and yet you talk like we're still in the 1950s!!

, GET A GRIP, in 2011 WI is a team that gives all players a chance REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACIAL BACKGROUND, and yet it's people like you who seem to have a problem with that and want to take us backwards!!, stop living in the past please and get with reality.
and if I believed you were a blac man I would refer to you in the light of all you say as a damm fool.
but since you cannot possibly be a blac man, I let it roll and carry on and play with you for the time being. at least what i say may may make some sense to any who pass-by, who take notice and find value in it
Re: Justice for Shiv
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:45 pm
by AFRO
mapoui wrote:
and if I believed you were a blac man I would refer to you in the light of all you say as a damm fool.
but since you cannot possibly be a blac man, I let it roll and carry on and play with you for the time being. at least what i say may may make some sense to any who pass-by, who take notice and find value in it
We don't agree so you question my race?

bwahaahahahahaha yeah ok grandpops!!

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