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Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:25 am
by Huckle
Mapoui, in one of your post you talked about the histoy of West Indies cricket in some books. Could you please share the name of these books ?
I'll start with this one,
Beyond a Boundary by C. L. R. James
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:47 am
by Googley
Maps is a historian in his own rights! I don't know why he don' write a book!
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:04 am
by mapoui
here are 2 sweet reads Huckle!
The Rise of Westindian Cricket: From Colony to Nation
by one of allyuh own: Frank Birbalsingh, a Guyanese who used to teach english in Toronto! I am sure you at least have heard of him.
that book is a delicious, informative and technically superb read, that covers westindies cricket from 1928 to 1966...the rise from colony to the rise of independent westindian states. you wont put it dong unhappy. you would wish it was longer.
check out the 'Test' section on naipual as witer on cricket. Birbalsingh has a great time fooling around with the great man in 'Test'..... naipuls view of the second test between westindies and england, at Lords in 1963.
:The Rise of Westindies Cricket: from colony to nation was published by Hansib Publishing, (Caribbean) limited.
i dont kow if it is still in publication. but any book store worth its salt shud be able to find it fuh you
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Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:11 am
by mapoui
Then there is the superb compilation by Hilary Beckles, the Cave Hill UWI cricket westindia cricket guru, and all-round positive contributor called:
An Area of Conquest: Popular Democracy and West Indies Cricket Supremacy.
I will admit I have not done justice to this book for I have not read it to bits and digested it wholly as yet. but as I mention it now I will get to it. but as a historical document I can tell you when done you will be feel a solid sense of knwledge about westindies cricket you may not have had prior to reading it.
you will be introduced to a lot of westindian scholars you may have not know before. and your sense of the problem in theregion with the rise of the westindian elites we know will be enhanced
IRP Ian Randle Publishers
Kinfgston jamaica, 1994
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:14 am
by mapoui
the best cricket stat compilation I have is by Jimmy Richars and Mervyn Wong, that includes 1865 to 1989.
its called: Red Stripe Statistics of westindies cricket: 1865 - 1989
I am sure by now there is a more up to date version
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:28 am
by mapoui
for me cricket was pure romance, sweetness and mystery. the figures I heard my father talk of was the stuff of my life, in all the misery that sorrounded us growing up in the westindies.
I head talk of constantine and headley as great heroes who beat the world, and wondred why they werent playing for the westindies then, before I understood that people got old and could play no more.
my father had old clippings of the Trinidad Guardian stored for decades that I found and read. that is how I first met Tim Tarilton, George Challenor, C A Ollievere, Nelson betancourt, Captain Andrew Cipriani, HBG Austin.
I was stunned when I found out that an england captain Pelham Warner was a westindian, Warner who is of the first westindian family from a european perspective.. who had been in the westindies for centuries...since it began as a modern entity that is.
I was stunned because I was puny then, in my body and spirt, for I was blac and poor and all that was white loomed like the pyramid of Giza over whatever I was...
but I followed the names as best I could. the Oz names too were conjurers of mystery and romance...Bradman, Hassett, harvey, McDonald, Arthur Morris, Lindwall, Miller, Benaud, Davidson, Ian Craig, a 21 year old kid the Oz chose to make thir captain around the late 19 fifties...an experiment they abandoned quickly for Craig was a Sammy and an Atkinson.
then the Indian names...Vinoo mankad, Manjrekar, Kripal Singh, Hazare, Umrigar, Gupte..early Indian names for england..duleepsinghi, Ranjitsinghi...
priceless!
but following the names leads places man..terrific places. take a shot
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:48 am
by mikesiva
History of West Indies Cricket, by Michael Holding....
I have the first edition, and the latest one, with further chapters added by Donna Symonds.
A very good read, IMHO....
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:51 am
by mapoui
Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:02 pm
by mikesiva
mapoui wrote:mikesiva wrote:History of West Indies Cricket, by Michael Holding....
I have the first edition, and the latest one, with further chapters added by Donna Symonds.
A very good read, IMHO....
Manley Mikesiva...or does holding have a History too?
additions even! I did not know that! if it is what I think it is it is a great read indeed!
Manley, Manley, Manley....

Re: Mapoui, History of West Indies
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:36 pm
by BallOil
Nice collection Mapou... with all those books, that should keep Huckle busy for the some time.
Mabye we should put a list of must read books for Windies Fans.