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beautiful! I appreciate Hilaire 50% for his absolute honesty. the players are awful, from generations of young blac people whom westindian society has uttery failed.

westindian society no longer produces young blac men of quality and apparently young Indian westindian men of quality as well, for where blac young men are failing so too are indian young men.

what is to be done?

the systematic situation that produced the failure cannot turn the situation around to produce success. it is not in the interest of those who run the system for this to happen. so unless Hilaire can creatue a coocon in which he nutures young men to play cricket successfully, he wil have to change the society, revolutionaise it as a whole to produce quality citizens or we wont have any perod. we will continue to have stupid players and poor results like we do now.

I told allyuh from the start that there will no cricket resurgence until there is social revolution in the westindies. well here it is right in front allyuh face in the words of a man allyuh like to respect because he har Dr. in front he name.

we cannot produce good cricketers in a vacuum. the whole society must be organised for success or there will be none.

the westindian elite is hand in glove with the global process of dumbing dong the ordinary people of the world. it is a far gone process in the westindies. everywhere one can observe the absolute low quality of young westindians, their stupidity and faith based belief systems, entirely inconsistent with truth and reality.

unless there is a turn around the westindies will be a different place in a generation or so...a far far worse place than it is now. and now people can barely live there so tuff it has become!

the person on these cricket msbs for whom I have the greatest dislike is Chrissy on sissy dot com, a woman at the centre of the process that results in the dumbing down of the westindian people.

she is a teacher at the university of the westindies, the institution that sets education standards in the region. if the education systm is failing the westinidna people then the university of the westindies is responsible.

and why is the university dumbing down the peole of the westindies?

because as the centre of the education process in the regin they have the basic impact on the quality of people we produce. if we do not ant social revlotuion then it follows that from the university down the people must be eucated in such a manner as to preclude the revolutionary protential.

in whose interest is it that there be no social revolutuion in the westindies? ...those who have profited from the start...and still profit currently...from the creation of the modern westindies, with new people...Africans, Whites, Indians and Chinese .... in place of the origianals who were extermninated.

it is also in the interest of the westindian elite who at the feet of these first exploiters and conquerors, live sweetly at the expense of the westindian people. in league with the forriner the westindina elites make up the regional professionl classes, the technicans who work with the forriner at the university to shape the westindian education to produce the rsults we now ketch our arse with as we see the damage it is slowly douing to our society such as uits. we cnn barely play cricket anymore..where we were once champions. soon enough we wont be able to do anything at all but be assholes in the land our forebears sweated boold and their lives in canefileds to make a life for us.

our professional classeas are no only complicitg in the formation of the social devices that turn westindians into vegetables they are also rsponsibel for carrying out the devices or programs. they are the teacher, administrator, politicans and other leaders who make sure the destrctuon of the westindies is effected. for this they have the old governnors mansions and many smaller versions for themselves all over the place while the great majority of the westindian peopole live in absilute squalor.

this is crissy as she speaks on sissy about progress and the betray of our cricket. in the meantime she is a direct part of that betrayal herself.

one time I attacked the jewish power in terms of the education of the westindis diretly to her as a test. she never replied, ran to hell away from it as quickly as she could. she knew on which side her bread is buttered let me tell you alll. she never said a word. but that is the power that is centrally responsible for the state of the westindies...as it is responsible for the state of things on planet earth entirely. and little will change n the world socially until this power is elimnated, the proper nationalism of states restored, and a democratic, ground-up, multi-beneficial international relationship among nations is built up.

Crissy is a teacher, disemminating the cap that destroys the westindies. she knows what she teaches is crap but she teaches it anyway. so do all the teachers in th regions. and among sch a deleterious professional elite are many many people who post n these masb...all involved in the very destrution of the westinaind peole, which in turn produices the devastation that is now estindies cricket. people post here who are involved in the destrution of the westindies yet they are callng for change and development in what there very daily routine makes impossible.

isnt it sweet these contradictions! the westindian civil servants, teachers, professors, doctors, lawyers, owners, etc..people like Ryan Narine etc...all involvd, embedded in the very system that is responsible for westindian failure..calling for change, development, better...yet they work against such positive developments every living day. they work to produce the very thing they rail against!

westindian life produces all manner of disastrous individual social experiences and the results of this. I see shocking crimne take place routinely in the westindies and people wriong thier hands in tears, sorrow, disbilief. but did they not realise that the way westindian society functions would produce exactly this and far worse too.

Hilaire lying to you and buying time so he can run out of the kitchen ...

How long Hunte pon the rampage eh? How Hilaire know that it will take three years and NOT 10 or 20 yrs? Is the High performance center to be setup a proven facility to help the players? What WICB doing for grassroots cricket?

mapoui wrote: the westindian elite is hand in glove with the global process of dumbing dong the ordinary people of the world. it is a far gone process in the westindies. everywhere one can observe the absolute low quality of young westindians, their stupidity and faith based belief systems, entirely inconsistent with truth and reality.

unless there is a turn around the westindies will be a different place in a generation or so...a far far worse place than it is now. and now people can barely live there so tuff it has become!

Agreed! But the people em happy so doh expect a change soon...

BallOil wrote:Hilaire lying to you and buying time so he can run out of the kitchen ...

How long Hunte pon the rampage eh? How Hilaire know that it will take three years and NOT 10 or 20 yrs? Is the High performance center to be setup a proven facility to help the players? What WICB doing for grassroots cricket?

what Hilaire said that is important, to the point and true... I wanted used it for the purpose of exposing the reality of the situation, clearing up the problem and advocating a solution.

eff Hilaires' possible ulteriors! they doh matter. he is one of them and will not act in the westindian general interest. I know it wont take no 3 years of anything save revolutionary activity/social fervor to return westindies to the top of anyting we were good in and at.

Hillaire can chat shit like that till the cows jump over the moon, as long as we know you cant turn around what afflicts the westindies in 3 years jess so...save there is comprehensive, wholesale revolutionary change, and the people become energised by their own identity/interests etc., in a project of taking care of themselves collectively...period!

mapoui wrote:

BallOil wrote: Hillaire can chat shit like that till the cows jump over the moon, as long as we know you cant turn around what afflicts the westindian in 3 years jess so...save there is comprehensive, wholsale revolutionary change and the people become energised by their own identity interests etc in a project of taking care of themselves collectively...period!

I love this

The problem that afflicts West indies cricket is the same problem that afflicts West Indies society and that cannot be turned around in the short term. I have been back in school pursuing me degree (not at UWI) and sometimes I cannot believe the archaic way of thinking among adult Jamaicans. They have no clue of where they are coming from, what was done to ensure that they can live day to day and where they are going. In one Literature class no one knew who Martin Wylde Carter was or had read extensively on their own history, some dumb fcuks would proudly proclaim that they dont like reading and seem happy in their ignorance.

Its the blind leading the blind Mappie, you think they know where they going ?

lbw375 wrote:

mapoui wrote:

BallOil wrote: Hillaire can chat shit like that till the cows jump over the moon, as long as we know you cant turn around what afflicts the westindian in 3 years jess so...save there is comprehensive, wholsale revolutionary change and the people become energised by their own identity interests etc in a project of taking care of themselves collectively...period!

I love this

The problem that afflicts West indies cricket is the same problem that afflicts West Indies society and that cannot be turned around in the short term. I have been back in school pursuing me degree (not at UWI) and sometimes I cannot believe the archaic way of thinking among adult Jamaicans. They have no clue of where they are coming from, what was done to ensure that they can live day to day and where they are going. In one Literature class no one knew who Martin Wylde Carter was or had read extensively on their own history, some dumb fcuks would proudly proclaim that they dont like reading and seem happy in their ignorance.

Its the blind leading the blind Mappie, you think they know where they going ?

Spot on guys...What should be done to get the WI people back on track? I think TV, videos games,etc are contributing factors

its like this Bally! its not what can be done to get the people back on track but the peoples response to the challenges they face!

the westinidian elites make their money in specific ways. they control politics and so the middle space betwen the people and the forrin corporations who own the westindies by dominating oil and gas, Bauxite, steel in Titty....agriculture and commerce, banking, tourism!

banking is the most important of all these activities. that is where we must put our brins to understand how it is done.

the central bank of each country is owned or controlld by private forces...forrin forces. these banks are called the cental bank ot ecach country..of Trinidad and Tobago, or antigua and barbuda, of st Kitts and St Lucia, of Jamaica and Barbados...but none of these nations really own and control those banks. those banks create the money of those nations by their lending activities and by straight printing of the money. all it costs them is the farthing for printing the bills.

the banks create the paper money out of thin air and lend it first to the government for all its projects, and supply the banks with liquidity as they create money by lending for consumption.

now that is why every government is loaded down with debtm because heir money has been taken over, their central banks priovatised and used to bleed every country in the world. and if you opt out of that system the will invade you, blow you up, destroy your country.

this is how the national money is supposed to work as far as I know. the money is owned by the people and the govern has the right to print it when it needs money for nationalist projects. when the government caries out the projects..roads, dams, general infrastructure it ends up adding to the whole economy a comensuarte expasnion that the nation has so it is not infaltionary but it has expanded the economy to an equal extent or amount.

printng its own money accodign to national needs the goven owes no interest on that money. ita the nations money. it starts and ends with the natipn and it is debt free. the government then needs no income taxes at all...but can run itself and expand as the bation expands and needs government services with simple taxes on business activities.

the government colelcts income taxes to pay off the interst on its debt to that bankers whom they have allowed to take over the banking function, to turn around and lend the government its own money which the goverment can print and use for free. the incom,e taxes the government collects does not go into general revenue from which the government uses for its projects and maintainance. it is all carted off to the bankers as interest charges.

and the goverment borrows again at interest from the bankers to meet its obligations..to finance its budget.

{since Trinidad has been having surpluese due to its oil and gass revenues watch how trinidad spends the money to understand the depth of forring control. Trinidad still has a miniscule safety net when all the people can be provided for, all problems addressed. alos the projects the Titty goverment embarks on recycle the money back to the forrin sources who paid for Tittys oil and gas at modern prices. Trinidad also accepts the white people forced on it to manage and dictate how the money is used. just look at the people in charge of all Maning did as prime minister. and kampal will be no different...can be no different}

that is why there is so much government debt everywhere in the world..and so much comes' and failure. all that has to happen is to end the way bankling is done for it is complete theft and bleeding of the poeple and all the politicians are complicit, in on the game sucking the westindies dry. the politicians and the classes they support are all criminal for everywhere what they do with the forrin banks is illegal. they are...all of them..even Kamla the minute she was sworn in as a MP.. in contravention of the law of the land as traitors for selling out he nation to forrin interests.

even the forrin investment that is mooted abut the place is a lie for no forrin investment takes place at . what happens is that those who come in to do investment go to the forin ownede banks in the nation, even to the central banks and get money free of charge..just printed up for them. look at who does the forrin investment and who owns the banks and the answer is clear. they are the same people in all cases. no new forrin money ver goes into any nation. forring investment consists of using the the local money to further and deepen the exploitation of the people.

that is what they are all doing there. the westindian elite makes its living by its faciliation of this murderous exploitation of the people. and as they are complict in this massive and grave crime they participate eagerly in the dumbing down of the people to prevent them from coming to know what is really going on and so they may do something about it. that is why they have destroyed westindian cricket, for it was the one area where the westindian people were all knowing, organised, cohesive, aware, collectivised. they had to destroy it. they live in deadly fear that the people will come to see what they are doing and when they do rip that traitorous, murderus westindian elite apart.

the westindian people simply must not come to know how they have been enslaved, even more comprehensively than the old field slavery. for if and when they do their fury mught be unstoppable, cannot be mitigated until the blood of every last westindian elite washes into the caribbean sea

SYSTEMATICALLY THEN, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WESTINDIES IS A SLAVERY FOR IT IS ALL PREDICATED ON THE LABOUR OF THE PEOPLE...THE TAXING OF THIS LABOUR UP FRONT, EVEN BEFORE IT IS EXPENDED IN PRODUCING HE CONTENTS OF THE REGIONLA ECONOMY. THEY PEOPLE ARE BLED ENDLESSLY IN THIS MANNER AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER THEIR SOCIETY, LABOUR, EDUCATION...NOTHING!

AND WHAT IS WORSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHATS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO THEM! CERTAINLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW

THE MECHANISM IS CONTROL OF THE MONEY, THE SYTEMT OF CREDIT...AND THAT ALL MONEY IN THE SOCIETY MUST COME INTO BEING AS DEBT...ISSUED BY THE FORRIN CONTROLLED AND OWNED BANKS..ON WHICH THEY COLLECT ENDLESS INTEREST..COMPOUNDED!

it follows that the westindian are totally corrupted, totally out of it as far as building up the westindies is concerned. their mastrs are after plunder and onluy plunder. the people must be in a shape and a condtion to be plunderd and accept it..dont know they are being plunderd, backward, ingnorant and stupid.

THAT IS WHY THE WESTINDIES HAVE BEEN DUMBED DOWN, ITS EDUCATION IS MADE IN TEL AVIV AND DESIMINATED THROUGH THE UWI. THAT IS WHY THE MARONITE CHRISTIANS BOUGHT OUT THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPAERS....WHY CERTAIN FORCES CONTROL THE MEDIA AND ALL SUCH IN THE REGION..AND WHY THE MEDIA THEY DO NOT OWN TOES A LINE SET BY THE FORRIN POWER. BECAUSE THEY OWN THE GOVERNMENT AND THE GOVERNMENTS MONOPOLY OF FORCE - THE POLICE, ARMY AND THE LEGISLATIVE/REGULATORY POWER....A FORCE THAT CAN APPLIED ANYWHERE AND ON ANYONE THE GOVERMENT IS TOLD TO BRUTALISE.

AND AS SHOULD BE KNOWN BY NOW..THE MARONITE CHRISTIANS..THOSE WHOM WE CALL SYRIAN LEBANESE IN THE WESTINDIES..ARE THE HANDMAIDEN OF THE ZIONISTS AND THE AMERICAN EMPIRE, THOSE WHO OWN AND CONTROL THE WORLD. WHICH IS WHY THE SYSTEM WOKS FOR THEM AND THEY ARE RICH AND IN BUSINESS EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE BEEN PLACED BY THESE POWERS.

THEY HAVE BEEN SO PLACED TO FACILIATE THE PROGRAMS OF THOSE WHO OWN AND CONTROL EVERYTHING

It follows that if the westindian elites cannot and wont run the westindies as it should be run then its only the people who can do so for it is in their collective ineterest to do so. as has been described the people have zero chance chance otherwise

unless the westindian people rise up and rid the region of the parasitic forrin power that has turned the regional life into a pigs breakfast..and at the same time deal faithfully and honestly with the westindian elites...in another generation or two..if the people actually have that amount of time...the westindies will be like a ghost town that used to populate the imaginary ameerican west of cowboys and indians.

that is the westindian people are'nt driven out all entirely and the region occupied by others.

if its any consolation to the westindian people it is the same way the people of all of europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Africa...and america itself, the heart of the empire...are all enslaved, controlled and bled....endlessly.

in fact while we were out in the fields picking cotton and cutting cane, driven by the slavemasters whip. europe was enslaved as well in the above manner and worse. it is in europe this system of economic slavery was conceived, implement and honed to its fine level of sohpistication currently.

europeans, white people were also enslaved in the fields at one time just as we were. in america white and blac slaves used to combine against the white master and the bankers, kill them and take over. that was a major problem for the capitalist all over the world...the combining of the slaves, who enjoyed a vast majoirty over them, to overthrow ole' marses' rass!

ole marse solved it by conceiving of and implementing the modern racism that we have come to know, getting to be what, 340 years old now from the 1970s in the USA...{see Bacons Rebellion!}

to protect itself the status quo had to turn the people in and against themselves. they hit upon the scheme of racial superiority and developed it fully. the concession they made was to allow white people big material crumbs, higher pay and all that. and white people were allowed to beat up on and overlord the coloured people of they word, as they were beaten up for centuries by their own elites white were allowed to be and feel superior, a freedom they soon began to take for granted as representative of some intangible superiority they came to believe in.

using racism ole marse co-opted the whole white race to defend his exploitation, his system of parasitism. he employed a whole race as a police force, using them to police blac people, who were now the exclusive slaves. he stopped enslaving white people directly though those hite nations that remained feudal late into the last century would beg to differ. all the same enough white people did better to turn them against blac people and so save the capitalists-capitalist system.

there would be no capitalist system today were it not for racism!

capitalist expansion helped all the way through up to now when laissez faire has finally given way to monopoly and an end to capitalist expansion. so in the end the truth about the relations of everyone to the systematic structure in which we live forces its way to the fore in capitalist crisis.

we can see that no matter what position on the capitalist food chain we occupy we ares still all slaves, fully exploited, paying through the nose. and now as the big crumbs that ordinary white people used to get are drying up there unconscionable exploitaion is there for all to see. white people who had most have lost most, indeed lost all in this initially manufactured economic recession that seems to have spiralled out of the control of the Bankers.

white jobs have been outsourced, they have lost their homes, savings retirements etc. and most significantly while blac people were shot in the streets like dogs while white people looked on approvingly...they too are now being shot like dogs in the streets by the cops.

ordinary white people too are now targeted for destruction just like blac people, live under the same bad education as we do, the same garbage flowing like an endless river from the media...the same organisation of health services calculated to kill people rather than cure them. they eat and suffer far more from the garbage on supermarket shelves for which they have more money to buy than we do.

from superficial observation there are far more white homeless on the streets of america and elswhere than there are black homeless. the most hapless of the lot are the former soldeirs who fought the 'endless wars' for the profit of the white corporations who own the armaments industry. after the serive no one employs them, they end up homeless, sick, injured mentally and physically all ovetr america, under bridges, allleys and all that.

white people are going back down to meet blac people as capitalist expansion ends. they may know it yet but the days of combining with blac' people aginst the system, to overthrow it, are once again at hand