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Lol..the much lauded metric of the mouthpiece, by which teams are now measured, apparently.

So with that in mind..

(1) LICA now receive 27 % of the WICBC developmental budget ......approx 2/3rds greater than a equal allocation, by members.

LICA, with a 7 % representation by population among WICBC members.

When last did they produce a player for the WICBC test XI.

......a competition is only as strong as it's weakest team...

Oh well done affers, but that doesn't exactly explain their competitive value to the R4D, or show us when last they contributed more to the WICBC than they received.

I'm actually struggling to remember when exactly they didn't finish last in the R4D.

right now the balance is just too much in Trinidad, Guyana and Barbados's favor...therefore the competition would barely be competitive.

Ok were getting somewhere, you at least concede LICA cant provide decent quality teams for a regional club competition, but didn't go on to explain for precisely how long they've failed to contribute, and didnt explain how Jamaica ended up as R4D champs in 6 of the last 7 seasons.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING FOR 15 YEARS AND NOT GETTING ANYWHERE

15 years, fair enough, So what are WI going to do about LICA non productivity.

This new system will root out the dungheap failures who contrive to weaken the standards years upon year and it will put pressure on those with contracts.

Right, so you're indirectly saying the Jamaican players, being top R4D performers, wont have to worry about national contracts but LICA may end up overloaded with foreign nationals who deprive LICA players of places.

In all probability Jamaicans, who are surplus to their own national teams needs.

Speaking of which, how many LICA U 23's have taken part in the " franchised "CPL over the last two years.

Sorry but I'm not sure I phrased that correctly, I should have asked how many Jamaicans will block LICA U23's progress to the first XI.

This is a possible list of LICA retainers for a " franchised " R4D

Powell
Hamilton
Thomas
Saunders
Tongue
Martin
Hayden Walsh
Walter
Joseph
Leonard

I count two under 23 players, Akeem Saunders who with an average of 16 from 6 fc inns is yet to provide any competitive value.

And Azarri Joseph, who has even less experience.

In light of the new " competitive environment " being proposed I see it as very unlikely these two youngsters are picked on sentiment ahead of players like Tonito Willet or CPL heavyweight Rakeem Cornwall but I guess those are the kind of problems that come with " franchise " cricket and " freedom of movement " lol

It should be noted 31 year old Antony " I roots" Martin put in LICA's best 3 bowling performances in the last edition of the R4D.

5/49 vs Guyana, 5/58 vs Windwards and 5/78 vs Barbados.

You run your big mouth about "jamaica should go it alone" when Jam don't even have the best structure in the region you fecking clown

Without a regional club competition its difficult to verify that objectively, but if so, it would naturally follow that burdened with such a hindrance Jam have either the best coaching, management or players in the region, a combination of any two of the three, or all of the above.

Whatever the answer may be you raise an interesting point.

why do a disproportionate amount of funds go to LICA when Jamaica's club structure is in need of just as much attention.

Gils wrote:I'm actually struggling to remember when exactly they didn't finish last in the R4D.

Ok were getting somewhere, you at least concede LICA cant provide decent quality teams for a regional club competition, but didn't go on to explain for precisely how long they've failed to contribute, and didnt explain how Jamaica ended up as R4D champs in 6 of the last 7 seasons.

LOL Mc sidepiece talking to HIMSELF again?

And as for "were"? man it doesn't matter how much i try to teach di poor man THE MISTAKES JUST KEEP ON COMING!! .

The best 3 LICA R4D performances with the bat came from :

J Hamilton 119, D Thomas 94 and KP 23 91.

The best three LICA batting averages were

KP23 41
D Thomas 37
J Hamilton 27

Jamaican players on the fringe of the first XI

S Thomas 45
C Walton 39
JD Campbell 23

To all intents LICA mainstay Antony Martin is a poor mans Nikita Miller so, If we look at his figures next to Odean Brown

240 wkts 22.28 avg 2.80 econ Vs A Martin
148 wkts 26.59 avg 2.41 econ

As we see, all but one of LICA's best performers will be under pressure to perform in a " franchise system " while even fringe players from yard will come under careful consideration by the LICA selection panel.

Not exactly what you had in mind, no. Oh well, you cant always get what you want, the CCC episode should have taught you that.

Nevertheless, as you can see, LICA are a drain on WICBC finances.

the reason they have been getting more funds is because THEIR STRUCTURE IS THE POOREST OF ALL THE TEAMS

ok, but following that logic WICBC should be allocating its greatest funds to the elements that provide the least " competitive value ". that would be St Maarten, BVI, USVI, Monsterrat and Anguilla, is that what you're supporting.

Gils wrote:

You run your big mouth about "jamaica should go it alone" when Jam don't even have the best structure in the region you fecking clown

Without a regional club competition its difficult to verify that objectively, but if so, it would naturally follow that burdened with such a hindrance Jam have either the best coaching, management or players in the region, a combination of any two of the three, or all of the above.

Whatever the answer may be you raise an interesting point.

why do a disproportionate amount of funds go to LICA when Jamaica's club structure is in need of just as much attention.

Ok i'll bite with this post. Jamaica's club cricket is of a poor standard which Pybus, the board and co are trying to address by handing out FUNDS to several clubs around the region. Jamaica, being the largest of the territories have more options to choose from interms of numbers, so obviously natural talent is bound to sneak through.

Jamaica only have TWO decent club sides which are Melbourne and Saint Catherine the rest are below standard. Meanwhile Guyana have Albian, Demerara, Essequibo, Police, Berbice amoungst others. Bim have Carlton, Empire, Maple, Wanderers, Spartan etc etc while Trinidad have Queens park, Merry Boys, Powergen and several others.

The fact is the gap is big and Jam will no longer be able to call upon the likes of Miller, Brown, Bernard etc in four or five years so then what? a poor club structure can also be detrimental to their youth system, which in turn effects WI. Thankfully the board are aware of this and are putting together plans to combat it. For a start school cricket teams will be linked to clubs...after that it's about improving the coaching standards and facilities.

Gils wrote:The best 3 LICA R4D performances with the bat came from :

J Hamilton 119, D Thomas 94 and KP 23 91.

The best three LICA batting averages were

KP23 41
D Thomas 37
J Hamilton 27

Jamaican players on the fringe of the first XI

S Thomas 45
C Walton 39
JD Campbell 23

To all intents LICA mainstay Antony Martin is a poor mans Nikita Miller so, If we look at his figures next to Odean Brown

240 wkts 22.28 avg 2.80 econ Vs A Martin
148 wkts 26.59 avg 2.41 econ

As you see, all but one of LICA's best performers will be under pressure to perform in a " franchise system " while even fringe players from yard are given careful consideration by the LICA selection panel.

So you see, it cant be denied, they are a drain on WICBC finances.

the reason they have been getting more funds is because THEIR STRUCTURE IS THE POOREST OF ALL THE TEAMS

ok, but following that logic WICBC should allocate its greatest funds to the elements that provide the least " competitive value ". that would be St Maarten, BVA, USVI, Monsterrat and Anguilla, is that what you're suggesting.

Question...

You have two kids, one is smart, well spoken, has a good job and is gonna start a family. The other is not as educated, is struggling to find a job and has been getting into a little trouble of late.

Do you abandon the one going through a hard time and invest all your love and care in the one already doing well? Or do you try with all your might to lift up the one who's not doing so well in the hope that you will one day see BOTH of your kids flourish?