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MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:05 am
by AFRO
I figured it was best to make a single thread about this massive news starting to break today!!...
WICB favours Arthur as new coach


By Vinode Mamchan


Tuesday, August 19, 2014.

Ottis Gibson no longer in charge of the West Indies cricket team.

Just days after the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) changed the regional selection panel, they continued their house cleaning yesterday by removing Ottis Gibson as coach of the regional side.

The former all-rounder, who played two Tests and 15 One-Day internationals for the Windies, served England as bowling coach from late 2007 until he came back home to take charge of the regional unit in February 2010.

Information reaching the T&T Guardian is that he was likely to be replaced by for the former South Africa and Australia coach Mickey Arthur. The South African, Arthur recently finished his duties with the Jamaica Tallawahs in the Limacol Caribbean Premier League T20 tournament.

WICB Cricket operations director Richard Pybus met with Gibson after a string of poor performances from the regional side. The two did not see eye to eye on many matters and in the end the WICB directors were made aware of the feelings of both Pybus and Gibson.

The directors held a teleconference over the weekend and a decision was made to terminate the services of Gibson and the hunt was then on for a new coach. With the West Indies due to play Bangladesh from tomorrow in Grenada in a three-match, two-Test and lone T20 series, a coach was needed immediately and Pybus met with Arthur at the Hyatt Regency in St Kitts.

It is understood that although all terms have not been worked out, Arthur will take charge for the Bangladesh series. Gibson’s contract was not up for renewal, since he renewed his contract last year. It was for a period of three years and due to end in February 2016.

At the time of renewing the contract, WICB chief executive officer Michael Muirhead said: “Ottis has added significant value to the development of the West Indies team during his tenure and we are delighted to have secured his services for another three years.” “Most notably is that he led the implementation of a system of professionalism within the team unit and curbed the negative results, which we were experiencing with some frequency. There have also been clear successes under his stewardship from 2010 to date. These include, most notably, having coached the team to the World Twenty20 title, the team showing consistent improvements in the other formats, the reintegration of players into the team unit and the achievement of the set goals as outlined in the WICB Strategic Plan 2011-2016,” Muirhead said.

The West Indies continue to struggle in the Test and ODI formats and this has prompted many changes under new president Dave Cameron.

Darren Sammy was removed as ODI captain and replaced by Dwayne Bravo, while the St Lucian was also replaced as Test captain by Denesh Ramdin. Sammy has held on to his post as T20 captain. Recently the changes continued with former Test captain Clive Lloyd replacing Clyde Butts as chief selector, while Eldine Baptiste and Courtney Walsh were also made selectors. Making way for them was Robert Haynes, while Courtney Browne was been sent to deal with youth selection and women’s cricket.
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Mappy gine be FUMING bhai :lol: :lol: ..but anyway this looks like it's happening by the sound of it. Gibbo and Pybus's relationship was strained from the very first time they met and it seems like it became a case of Gibbo saying "it's either him or me?"...and they chose Pybus :D .

Arthur has vast experience and is a much more proven coach than the pretender that was Gibson..so immediately our players will be getting a higher level of coaching. Now of course Arthur had a bad spell with Australia but there's no doubt he will have learned from that experience...he's come back with Jamaica during this CPL and by all accounts he's impressed a LOT of people with his ideas and methods there.

I would have liked Robin Singh or Jimmy Adams but honestly with the board finally showing ambition this year and getting rid of the crap selectors and now this garbage coach..i'm happy to support their decision once everything is finalised. They really couldn't have done anymore to try and fix our cricket with the way they've gone about things..when there was rumours yesterday that gibbo was hanging on to his job spoke to one of the top dogs in the board and made them fully aware that the fans want a fresh start now...and i'm delighted that they appear to have taken that notion into consideration....and now i guess there's just one thing left to say!!..

FORWARD!! 8-)

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:36 am
by mikesiva
Forward? This looks like "backward" to me...back to the colonial era.
8-)
Frank Worrell's legacy is being rolled back....

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:56 am
by Gils
dunce,

You backed Gibson for 4 years, when you were told he will do the team no good, by any and all those with the patience to explain it to you.

But today he's a " pretender ", so how long, exactly, did it take you to arrive at that conclussion.

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:36 am
by AFRO
Gils wrote:dunce,

You backed Gibson for 4 years, when you were told he will do the team no good, by any and all those with the patience to explain it to you.

But today he's a " pretender ", so how long, exactly, did it take you to arrive at that conclussion.
Bwoy stop your NOISE!!..about "backed him for four years" :roll: . At the time people were saying he was "crap" THE MAN WAS A WORLD CUP WINNER AND WAS IN THE MIDST OF A SIX TEST WINNING STREAK!!...so, any individual with common sense would have told you that it wasn't the right time to be getting rid of the man...and as he was a caribbean coach to boot i was eager to see him be given a fair chance to succeed. In the end though it just wasn't to be and his inexperience proved fatal in the end...Pybus saw through him straight away.

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:43 am
by AFRO
mikesiva wrote:Forward? This looks like "backward" to me...back to the colonial era.
8-)
Frank Worrell's legacy is being rolled back....
LOL you still running around PRETENDED you ain't half white mike? :lol: :lol: :lol: look i really don't give a feck where the coach is from tbh...if he's Caribbean then great. If not then really all i'm concerned about is whether the guy can actually WIN us some test matches...that's all it comes down to at the end of the day.

Arthurs record is actually a WINNING won...for South Africa he created history of being the first coach to go and win in Australia...he also won nine series in a row with them.

For Australia he was the coach who beat India 4-0 at home. He also won in the Caribbean, beat Sri-lanka 3-0 and drew in South Africa. All in all the man won three out of seven series and only lost two....one being the 4-0 in India where he'd lost the services of both Ponting and Hussey at the same time.

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:08 am
by AFRO
Anyway an interesting article on how Arthur works with the players
Arthur directs his blundering Test batsmen to training camp

December 15, 2011


by Chris Barrett


"We're going to practise against the swinging ball" ... Mickey Arthur

BATTING camps are generally reserved for schoolboy and junior cricketers not the likes of Ricky Ponting, Australia's greatest swinger of the blade since Bradman.

Yet that is exactly what is in store for Australia's batsmen after the calling of a three-day camp in Melbourne in the lead-up to the Boxing Day Tests against India.

Ponting will be joined by Test captain Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Brad Haddin as well as Dan Christian, Shane Watson and possibly Shaun Marsh in the MCG nets from next Tuesday.

They will be facing bowling machines that will simulate the deliveries of tall Indian seamer Ishant Sharma and others. Up in Canberra, meanwhile, David Warner, Phillip Hughes and Usman Khawaja will be in action for a Chairman's XI, facing the real thing.

Clarke and Warner aside, Australia's batsmen have not been in the finest of touch of late, capitulating infamously for 47 in Cape Town last month and playing a central part in an embarrassing seven-run defeat to New Zealand in Hobart on Monday.

The Melbourne batting summit, coach Mickey Arthur said, is simply being arranged to sharpen the focus on the headline act of the summer. ''What we're going to do at the batting camp is we're going to talk about the Indian bowlers, we're going to set up bowling machines a la Ishant Sharma, guys like that,'' he said.

''We're going to practise against the swinging ball and get our basics right before Boxing Day. There's no major reconstruction of anyone's technique - it's literally getting our guys thinking about the Test match, thinking as a group and honing our four-day skills to get the guys best prepared to play on Boxing Day. We're not reshaping anybody's technique or anything.''

Several of the camp attendees will play for their Big Bash League teams beforehand, including wicketkeeper Haddin, who will captain the Sydney Sixers in the first game of the tournament at the SCG tomorrow night.

The relationship of Cricket Australia's new Twenty20 competition with the upcoming Test series is a major talking point and there was a pointed reference from Arthur about the subject when he discussed the batting camp last night.

''It's just to get our unit of batters that we see playing in the Test match some sort of first-class batting practice without their techniques being compromised playing Twenty20 cricket,'' he said.

Among those who will not be playing in the BBL is Watson, whose continuing recovery from a hamstring injury rules him out of the Sixers' match against Matthew Hayden's Brisbane Heat and leaves him in doubt for Boxing Day.

He will not bowl even if selected for the first Test but yesterday endorsed the concept of a batsman's get-together, particularly as a vehicle to combat swing bowling, a weapon New Zealand used to great effect at Bellerive Oval.

''No doubt swing bowling [is] very hard to face … high-quality swing bowling is a big challenge, especially if the ball is moving late,'' Watson said.

''I'm not sure if it's a problem for Australian batsmen, it's a problem for cricketers in general. No doubt there have been times when we've had collapses when the ball is swinging around and seaming around, but other teams … are having challenges as well.''

Watson said Australia's batsmen would have been working diligently on preparing individually for the vagaries of the Indian attack, regardless of whether a camp was call or not.

''Guys would be doing everything possible to make sure their games are in the best place and make sure what happened against New Zealand doesn't happen again,'' he said.
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They did this and ended up beating India 4-0 . This sort of stuff is NOT something Gibbo ever done and it's refreshing to see that Arthur has these type of ideas up his sleeve..it would have been perfect for the recent series against NZ.

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:11 am
by mapoui2
fuming? to say the least

if they bring arthur in I am really done this time. there is no way in hell I can accept Mickey Arthur as west indian coach!

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:26 am
by AFRO
mapoui2 wrote:fuming? to say the least

if they bring arthur in I am really done this time. there is no way in hell I can accept Mickey Arthur as west indian coach!
Mappy Mickey won't be the one of the field wearing the great WI shirt...support the TEAM...don't worry about the people behind the scenes 8-) .

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:41 am
by Colin Benjamin
Ok i used my media links and i spoke to a territorial board president who is also a WICB director (wont say who of course). He told me that rumors that Gibson is sacked & Arthur will replace him is false.

But interesting while i tried to contact the WICB press officer in grenada Phil Spooner or the main WICB PR guy Imran Khan tthey have not responded.

This tells me two things:

1 - All rumours are indeed false, maybe their is some other issue & WICB just killing time until they make a press release clarifying everything

2 - Rumours might be true & that they maybe some disagreement/confusion in the upper echelons in the board & similarly the WICB will make a press release confirming Arthur's appointment soon.

Personally i wouldn't mind if Arthur gets the job, he is well travelled and experienced coach. He was applying for the Sri Lanka job recently. If he gets it, he might very useful for the upcoming tour to S Africa for example.

Re: MICKY ARTHUR SET TO REPLACE GIBBO?!!

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:46 am
by Colin Benjamin
mikesiva wrote:Forward? This looks like "backward" to me...back to the colonial era.
8-)
Frank Worrell's legacy is being rolled back....
Come on now, stop with the colonial era crap - its all about getting the best coach to help particularly with the test team, the colour of his skin isn't important. This is a ridiculous assertion to make.

Sure west indian options like Jimmy Adams, Lochheart Sebastian, Roger Harper, Phil Simmons could be useful - but expect for Harper (who is tied up with Amazon warriors) windies don't have a caribbean bred coach with Arthur's credentials. So if indeed we get him, it would be a major coup.

Major Caribbean football teams & clubs (Trinidad, Jamaica, Central FC etc etc) has been hiring foreign white coaches for years now, cut out the race card man...