West Indies Has Become Zimbabwe

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The Black Prince
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no team except zimbabwe and bangladesh is excited about playing the west indies.

top teams like australia, england, south africa, india only play the west indies because they are obligated to play them.

west indies cricket is mediocre. west indies players are mediocre. west indies fans are mediocre.

west indies today has become zimbabwe.

'humpty dumpty sat on a wall'

dat is wi cricket for you. humpty dumpty sat on a wall. humpty dumpty had a great fall.

i dont see west indies cricket ever recovering.

gayle, bravo, and pollard might be right. make as much money as they can before wi cricket folds up.
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BallOil
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spot on! What's next though, continue as it is , restructure or go at it alone?
Huckle
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Zim cricket was destroyed by political instability while West Indies undone by stupidity.
mapoui
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Huckle wrote:Zim cricket was destroyed by political instability while West Indies undone by stupidity.
deliberate stupidity!

there is a difference! one is mental incapability the other one is purpose, like the fox.

the wicb knows what it has done and continues to do to westindies cricket huckle. if the elite in charge wanted westindies cricket to shine and bring credit to the region they owuld have ensured its proper running all along.like the Oz who keep seconding the proper personell to run their cricket..or the english etc.

it is not that the westindies have no proper people to do the work. we have them...alll over the diaspora. we could hrie them from anywhere to come do the job we want.

and if we dont have answers there are consultants who can look at our situation from all possible angles and come up with initiatives that can work.

Ledder Face Gordon, senile Griffith, doh car damm Hall, buffoon Hunte, idiot egomaniacs Rosseau.Clarvis Joseph ar all not the way you run an orgabnisation if you want it to go properly.

the wicb has achived in cricket what UWI directed by westindian government have achieved with westindian education...especially westindian history. there are tons of westindian kids with passes in westindian history and know less about the region that kids who came up and never went to hight school.

the state of wedtindian education and the state of westindies cricket is the same. is deliberate or not?

somebody keeping westindians down, dumbing the people down and intend to keep doing so until they get the westindies to whatever state they intend for it.

if its not the westindian elites doing it, they are all the same entirely complicit in the operation. that is why they never interfere in the cricket, why they keep seconding the old assholes to the chair of what should be one of the most important jobs in the region
mapoui
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cricket is the most imprtan and signinficant achievement of the westindies. westindian leadership should be rushing to maintain it, to enhance it, to ensure we are dominating the world in the game.

that is how we have made our name in the world, imposed our name on it, made sure the rest of the world knows us and what we are.

it is logical that westindian l;ead4ership rush to make sure that criket is well, healthy and a going-concern.

yet what do we have.....the opposite! deh doh care about the cricket!

that is illogical on the surface. but it is entirely logical if the goal is what we actually do have..the utter failure of what should be a burgeoning regional activity..westindian cricket
pacy
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We hear about all the great Businessmen who led the WICB over the years... But isnt it surprising that they were not able to get sponsors?

For Big Businessmen and Politicians it is unfortunate that no one is even willing to believe them and give them a penny. So much for their Greatness...
The Black Prince
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pacy wrote:We hear about all the great Businessmen who led the WICB over the years... But isnt it surprising that they were not able to get sponsors?

For Big Businessmen and Politicians it is unfortunate that no one is even willing to believe them and give them a penny. So much for their Greatness...
most of the businesses and the governments in the caribbean are struggling financially.

and who would want to sponsor a mediocre team with mediocre players like the west indies.

in 2010 west indies = zimbabwe

most teams only play west indies because of icc obligation
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the westindies is a sick place socially-economically. the westindies have chosen to be a backwater of a backwater..that is - to continue the system which was in place exploiting the westindies at the point of political independence.

what of significance in the westindian economy does the people of the westindies own that they can say at this moment in time...ok, the heart of capitalism has been effed up, let us see what we can do in alternative directions?

the westindian people do not own the economy, prolly do not even know its extent, what is profiatble and or not profitable, their real gdp and gnp..their real econnic stats. thast is because they own nutten, control nutten cant command nutten for any vantage point, be it government demands or from having a say from particfipation in busines running things....in the in what is supposed to be their economy.

if it were for the strivings of west-Indian...westindians would own absolutely nutten at all in the region. we must give west-indians that. while blac people fell asleep under the sedative eric williams and the rest of that ilk gave them, west-Indians worled to own some kind of share in the place

these leaders and the class they gave rise to, chose to be neo-colonial, the very system we fought for independence to change.

the blac westindian elite chose remain subservient to our old masters, never challenged them, never offered the people the truth of our reality and ways we could go in changing what is a dusgsuting situation into a positive one.

venezuela today claims it is out of recession and on their properus way again. venezuela has forged an independent path, a way of their own in the world and look to no master.

the westindies remain tied to the rotten western metroples, with their sick and terminal capitalism, wile its replacement fascism rises. thats the westindian future rising in front of our faces.

the westindian elites have nothing to offer in alternative to whatever the masters they have chosen develops and recommends socially-and as economic policy...ideologically, philosophically. and at this stage all that is western is in decay. therefore the westindies is rottening before our faces.

it is time for the westindian people to rise up, to get out and intervene in the way the region is run, understand their collective ordinary interest at this point, write it down/act on it at one and the same time... with the intent of correcting and expanding themselves as they go in developing independent westindian power.

that is one sure way to revive the westindies...prolly the only way.

world society is at a tremendous stage of social and environmental evolution. humanity has choices of very survival to make. westindian people have been dumbed-down, the debate in the westindies is very low at this point of total human crisis.

the life of the human species is hanging by the slenderest thread and the westindies is nowehere on the debate and action charts.

we produced nobel laureates, had an active political life in times past...not any more.

unless the westindian people get up and get involved there is no hope! but are the people ready.......

we are worse off than zimbabwe now..and not only in cricket! the state of westindies cricket is a consequence of the failue of the westindian subservient social 'model' chosen by the blac and brown westindian elites on gaining independence by 1962.

the abject state of westindian total westindian life...not just cricket..is the consequence of such elitist failure.

it is popuar intervention or the situation is toast soon enough

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