.read moreOctober starts a period of activities for West Indies cricket that will run deep into 2011. With numerous issues emerging, I interviewed people involved of WI cricket’s administration. Azim Bassarath, the current president of the T&T Cricket Board (TTCB), completing year one of his two-year term, opens the innings.
Croft Croft (CC): It’s October 2010. Where is West Indies cricket right now?
Azim Bassarath (AB): We are exactly at the same place we were a year ago. At the recent WICB (West Indies Cricket Board) meeting in Barbados, a number of new initiatives have been undertaken. We are hoping that those bear fruits in the very near future. There will be additional A-team tours and more youth development and grass-roots programmes, sponsored by Digicel, and additional programmes for women’s cricket, and England’s “A” team re-inclusion to our four-day tournament. There will be a widening of the Caribbean T-20 tournament in January 2011. We should give the WICB an opportunity to show what the future holds for us.
CC: It is 15 years that we have been sliding almost vertically downwards on that non-accomplishment pole. Do you believe that this period could be the start of that U-turn upwards for our cricket, as, that question remains; “Where are we going with our cricket?”
AB: Whenever we win a Test match, you hear that “we have turned the corner.” On several occasions, I noted that we were simply making a roundabout turn...
Bassarath:Windies cricket same place as last year
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reads like some decent plans up in there. may they work, bear fruits as aseem says.
but there is no authentic westindian feeling, structure, viewpoint, that can endegender feelings of nationalist committment from the westindian people to anything that is westindian, sufficient to meet the challenges of westindian survival and collective national success, far less in individual cultural activities like cricket
a side of that is the general mistrust and contempt of ordinary westindians for the westindian leadership classes whom the people know for absolute certain, are not on their side, acts always in the interest of the exploiting forriner when it comes to national and regional interests.
that is why the westindies is in the structural and emotional state it is in. it derives from the betrayal of the region by its elites, since the collective federal project was aborted, and emerged into individualised faux independence projects.
the malaise that mucks up the westindian people grows from such betrayal and the resulting condition of neo-colonialism the westindian people exist in.
neo colonialism and its effects chokes up the westindies, stiffling all nationalist aspirations, miseducating the children, propagandising the whole people into an in-authentic lifestyle that fits them for nothing progressive, nothing that meets their security individually, nationally, but continues their horrendous, exhaustive and complete exploitation, even more than when they were slaves and indentured and direct colonials.
that is something of what the state of the westindies is as far as i can see and little good can come of it.
all that westindian infrastructure can do is replicate foolish citizens who cannot think and act in their own best interests, but in the interest of their exploiters. westindians, far less the actual cricketers involved in this instance, dont even know why it is important for them to play cricket successfully as a regional nation-in-waiting anymore.
older westindians may have an idea but the younger ones dont know.
so all these 'interim' plans cannot address successfully underlying regional social problems that produce westindian people incable of functioning up to the levels of the past, especially the pre-and immedately post independence period...far less on levlrls essential for competing successfully internationally.
general social reform from the ground up is essential for westindian success. by and but the nature of such change it can come about only by the intervention of the general population in the regional social process with the intent of making the peoples interest decisive in the social decision-making process
but there is no authentic westindian feeling, structure, viewpoint, that can endegender feelings of nationalist committment from the westindian people to anything that is westindian, sufficient to meet the challenges of westindian survival and collective national success, far less in individual cultural activities like cricket
a side of that is the general mistrust and contempt of ordinary westindians for the westindian leadership classes whom the people know for absolute certain, are not on their side, acts always in the interest of the exploiting forriner when it comes to national and regional interests.
that is why the westindies is in the structural and emotional state it is in. it derives from the betrayal of the region by its elites, since the collective federal project was aborted, and emerged into individualised faux independence projects.
the malaise that mucks up the westindian people grows from such betrayal and the resulting condition of neo-colonialism the westindian people exist in.
neo colonialism and its effects chokes up the westindies, stiffling all nationalist aspirations, miseducating the children, propagandising the whole people into an in-authentic lifestyle that fits them for nothing progressive, nothing that meets their security individually, nationally, but continues their horrendous, exhaustive and complete exploitation, even more than when they were slaves and indentured and direct colonials.
that is something of what the state of the westindies is as far as i can see and little good can come of it.
all that westindian infrastructure can do is replicate foolish citizens who cannot think and act in their own best interests, but in the interest of their exploiters. westindians, far less the actual cricketers involved in this instance, dont even know why it is important for them to play cricket successfully as a regional nation-in-waiting anymore.
older westindians may have an idea but the younger ones dont know.
so all these 'interim' plans cannot address successfully underlying regional social problems that produce westindian people incable of functioning up to the levels of the past, especially the pre-and immedately post independence period...far less on levlrls essential for competing successfully internationally.
general social reform from the ground up is essential for westindian success. by and but the nature of such change it can come about only by the intervention of the general population in the regional social process with the intent of making the peoples interest decisive in the social decision-making process
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paradox here are you bally?BallOil wrote:so is it fair to say that freedum killed WI cricket?mapoui wrote:well..wasnt it?BallOil wrote:Mapoui....was oppression the driving force in West Indies Cricket?
keen observation on the other thread....linear, shallow and either or in this instance!
whats up?
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BallOil wrote:just looking for the needle in the haystack... Enlighten we nah
there is no needle! there never is a needle but always process, the process of life , contradictory, complex, intepenetrative and interdependent as to causation, results.
we have had an experience that has produced our reality up to this point. it has been a contradictory experience in which all the particularities are obvious. it has been a dominant/subordinate experince as is always the case in processes becuase of its contradictory nature, which drives the process to resolution ...in which case it gives rise to a new process with its own contradictory movement impelling it towards resolution.
we have to study out our experience, from what it rose and what gave it its peculair flavour and nature, its dominat/sub relationship and its nature, to understand who we are our current situation and what must be done to meet our universals..survival, security and the human development that achieves and maintians amd enhances survival, security.
it follows that resolution means a transformation of the dom/sub relationship at the basis of things, which is why ultimately the people must rise for only they as social protagonist can achieve the transformation essential for progress. process grows up, the contradiciton evolves, the dom becomes old, the sub is the new...the new replaces the old and a new process evolves which is what the transformation is, with a new contradiction, new features different from the old, requiring ultimately an altered process of resolution consistent with what the new gives rise to, contains in itself as evolved from the old.
the process is interdependent and contradictory at one and the same time yet evolving, changing all the time accoridng to the laws of matter in motion and the various nature and conditions of the existence of matter in motion..the relavant organisations of matter in motion.......
well it can be a long story but there is no needle and we go by what we know... and we know due to constant change due to the constanrt motion of things we must always factualise things, know for certain whats going on so we have to study life and act and study again and act again etc. an ongoing process.
we come to know certain fundamentals which while temporry in nature as all things are, are all the same of a traditional nature due to their lengh, and essential nature of current survival which is all that matters. there is no future if no survival.
what do we know fundamentally about westindian reality?
we know our history, our experienc and what it produced. from that we can infer all about the world and our selves, other prople, the species as a whole and what life actually is, what we are composed of..the nature of old and new, matter in motion, which is the constituent nature of matter, up and down, directions, time etc.
we come to know cause and effect, as cause and effect, cause and effect, and effect as cause. we know if we are not a certain way, if we do not act a certain way or act a certain way, what the potential results are.
we know if we are not thinking for ourselves our physical capacity for such will atrophy. why it is impootant we for us to be able to think for ourselves?
we come to know the dialectical nature of all that exists which is always relative to the thing itself in the world as the world has been and is, which gave rise to all things in it which are all relative for nowhere else in the univesre will things be the same although we can postulate that there are process going on everywhere too, based on what we have come to know of how own world world came about is constitutued and its potential future.... for this is the way of nature, universally, although relatively so, disciplined by universal regional condtions. all there will be different from all here because of the conditions that exists wherever.
so again we know our westindian experience and although there are enddless possibilities on any basis, theme possibility etc., all still remain relative. we can be certain in our specific temporality if we do not do what we discover to be right and consistent with the best possibilities of our being now there are consequences.
that is the process again. there is always motion and motion is always necessary..motion is the condition of existence of mater. if one thing does not happen something else capable of happening at that point will happen.
reducing it to the individual and his social organism you have an idea what you must do, you have some certainties and you do live according to them. but there is a requirement for the mind to be full of truth, to function on truth which is the content of what i have tried to say. yet there is a content out there that is the content of the general mind that has little to do with this, what i call valid, real. truth, essential for survival.
in the case of the westindies as well as all people survival is crucial for there is nothing human if we do not survive. we must therefore come to know process, nature with the view of turning existence into our favour, from the contradictory relationship we have with nature. we are off nature yet nature tries to kill us all the time, succeeding ultimately.
survival being then from the social evolution of the species, from primitive to awareness to our current state, from a state of immatureity, we must transform ourselves to mature, we have grown to a point from which we can see a possible mature state of being as possible and crucial to achieve, for indefinite survival that we now have a chance to achive such a state of being. and that depends entirely on revolutionary transformation of our current social organisation
we now know the proceess now by which and how nature works, the proceesss of social evoution, and we can facilitate our survival currently more effectively than ever before by deepening immeasurably our knowledge of nature.
we know that the final stage of human social immaturity is capitalism/capitalist monoply which we have arived in the middle of and once that is overcome by the general wil, general revolutionary social transformation, the transforation of the contradition in the process of exploitative phase of human evolution will result in or evolve into a social process that is not antagonistc and violent and that all further change would of necessity involve social contradictions of a milder quality, in which social change will no longer require, call for or involve violent revolutionary activity.
the westindies must deal with the consequencs of its history as all nations and regions must. we know what has happened, all that is involved and the choices to be made. if one choice is made or not made we have an idea or know what can and likely will happen to a resonable distance into the tuture, beyond which no one can predict.
but this is just one small scratch on the surface on this particulay body of thinking. it is factual, most certainy the way to go for an understanding of life to this point. the great thinkes and researches go on, helping to clarify things. I read as many as I have time to read using my own experience as guidline.
I do know that it is critical for society to arrive at a point at which the social/cultural systems must produce well educated in the truth, proven information, on any day, citizens capablabe of participating fully in their social process up to the hignhest levels, independent and made so by systematic democratic distribution of employment and all social requirements and amenities....the results of work...the means of general of security.
the material part is easy for our technological development makes it easier every day now to provide for all the people on the planet, even twice the global population we now have.
the problenm is how to get from our final stage of immaturity..capitalist financial monopoly... to the saving democracy we must achieve to go on. t
hat depends on the continuing struggle of ordinary people for a proper social life and seci=urity, and our total success in overturning our social contradiction, the basic contradiction of our stage of social evolution and transforming social reality into a postive democracy.
in the westindies as everywhere it up to us. ordinary folk in our struggle for security, one of the universals, traditionals.... that exists with us and wont exist if we are not here. if we are all dead we do not need security of an earthly kind
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the people must organise for the success of westindies cricket.
in the process they will find out why the cricket failed and is failing still. they will see why and who and what to be done.
in doing what must be done they will come into oppostion with the status quo, their onw local elites... which will further clarify reality to them.
the cricket fails because it is a basic and fundamental purpose of the status quo, in maitaining itself at the top of westindian society, to have a weak cricket in the westindies given what cricket has come to mean to the people.
the westindian elites therefore have determined to kill cricket which they see as a deadly thereat to their social postion at the top of society.
that makes it clear to the people that not only cricket is ivolved bot the whole way the society functions, opposed to their collective ineterests...but in the interest of their traditonal exploiters with whom their local leadership are now in league against them.
cricket then becomes part of the network of oppression and exploitation of the people, and its resurgence cannot be achieved at this stage, unless all else is resolved at the same time..the fundamental question of who runs the society and benefits from labour and general social activity of the people
in the process they will find out why the cricket failed and is failing still. they will see why and who and what to be done.
in doing what must be done they will come into oppostion with the status quo, their onw local elites... which will further clarify reality to them.
the cricket fails because it is a basic and fundamental purpose of the status quo, in maitaining itself at the top of westindian society, to have a weak cricket in the westindies given what cricket has come to mean to the people.
the westindian elites therefore have determined to kill cricket which they see as a deadly thereat to their social postion at the top of society.
that makes it clear to the people that not only cricket is ivolved bot the whole way the society functions, opposed to their collective ineterests...but in the interest of their traditonal exploiters with whom their local leadership are now in league against them.
cricket then becomes part of the network of oppression and exploitation of the people, and its resurgence cannot be achieved at this stage, unless all else is resolved at the same time..the fundamental question of who runs the society and benefits from labour and general social activity of the people
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