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Googley wrote:go look at these first then you will understand why

http://www.cricinfo.com/legends-of-cric ... line=45063" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

well Bally! you cyan now see fuh yuhself the consistentcy of the 'unusual reasoning that leads to the actions that I bus the man up for.

if its not sknash in the face of truth, its Gavaskar in the face of truth.

there are two batsmen who are all time greats in the world..greater even than Bradman for there is no way 'sir don" could have bat like dem..and deh are Tendulkar and lara.

di'ze it right deh! no one else, not even Kanhai...the heights!

when yuh want to talk Gavaskar you have to look to his group...Boycott, Greenidge, Haynes, Gooch, Gower, Cowdrey, Kallis, Dravid, Miandad, Majid etc.

to get to Lara and Tendy that group have to hop over kanhai, Sobers, Viv, Greg Chappell, Barry Sheppard, Graeme Pollock...real skillful and most of all creative batsmen, who pushed batting to great heights, extended limits, explored the full potential of what a man could do with a bat and revealed new paths to follow to achieve more...which is where Lara and Tendy come in.

Gavaskar is not there at all no matter how many runs he accumulated and high avarage and all dat.

weird eh ! after gavaskar he will prolly say sknash and bring out a case that even if sknash only play a few tess and scored a few tons against weak bowling in featherbed conditions ia how he scored...........

Have some respect for the next WI skipper! thats Mr. Nash to you!

Mapoui...I see you padding out all the googlies and you swing hard when you ready... I don't want to get in the middle cause meh might get buss head

Googley wrote:go look at these first then you will understand why

http://www.cricinfo.com/legends-of-cric ... line=45063" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

come on Googs I kind ah understand lil bit but you have to adapt with the times.. 14000+ runs and 49 Tons more heavy than 34 eh

BallOil wrote:

Googley wrote:go look at these first then you will understand why

http://www.cricinfo.com/legends-of-cric ... line=45063" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

come on Googs I kind ah understand lil bit but you have to adapt with the times.. 14000+ runs and 49 Tons more heavy than 34 eh

see, i never said the man was not special or a great or one of the greatest. he is all that and more! All I said was that I rank gavaskar ahead of him.

let me ask you, how many games Gavo played vs 10D? look at the quality of bowlers Gavo played and compare to 10D's time. Look at how many games Gavo won for country vs 10D. Look at the make up of the respective teams when each played and see the difference.

Hands down, Gavaskar is the best opening batsman that ever played the game! Even 10D will tell you that!

Googley wrote:

BallOil wrote:

Googley wrote:go look at these first then you will understand why

http://www.cricinfo.com/legends-of-cric ... line=45063" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

come on Googs I kind ah understand lil bit but you have to adapt with the times.. 14000+ runs and 49 Tons more heavy than 34 eh

see, i never said the man was not special or a great or one of the greatest. he is all that and more! All I said was that I rank gavaskar ahead of him.

let me ask you, how many games Gavo played vs 10D? look at the quality of bowlers Gavo played and compare to 10D's time. Look at how many games Gavo won for country vs 10D. Look at the make up of the respective teams when each played and see the difference.

Hands down, Gavaskar is the best opening batsman that ever played the game! Even 10D will tell you that!

Get Boomer here right now leh we do a side by side analyst on the two of em...

BallOil wrote:Mapoui...I see you padding out all the googlies and you swing hard when you ready... I don't want to get in the middle cause meh might get buss head

yuh see Bally..the man have ideas but is waht the ideas are. he doh understand wat the term mastery means.

it means people like Kanhai, Pollock, Viv and so had mastered the art of batting, it is like jimi hendricks on the giutar. hendrix had mastered the instrument and made it do his bidding not the other way around. others play the guitar,,,hendrix made the guitar do what he wanted it to do.

that is what Kanhai with a bat...all technique, correctitude and on dat basis do what he felt like when he was not bored and in the mood...den get carried away.

dat was Viv as all the greats say...do what the hell he want with any bowler, never wear helmet and all dat.

all the guys in Gavaakar group save perhaps gower and majid were hard workers, who developed beyond their natural abilities by dedication and enormous concentration. they were not masters of their trade but conscientious, hardworking tradesmen.

who cares about their stats. they did not raise the blood pressure when their names were heard like Viv, kanhai, Lara, Tendy...dem fellas coming!? everybody wake up and head fuh the oval to get a glimpse.

This is a subjective matter.. For example, I like Shiv and will put him ahead of other greats.. That is just my preference but might not be the popular pick.

BallOil wrote:This is a subjective matter.. For example, I like Shiv and will put him ahead of other greats.. That is just my preference but might not be the popular pick.

what subjective about the mastery of a professional or tradesman of his trade?

we know when we see that masyery. we know the skill is extreme, that the subject in the matter is in total control and is dictating the flow of events....not the other way around.

that is the highest level of achievement I know of.

here is a bowler who understands a batsman, a bowler who is class himself and with his keeper and 10 fieldsmen set up traps for that batsman, exploits his character as he has come to know it, have used all the films and all that is known about the batsman to construct means to defeat him.

and that batsman constrained by the attack, recognises it, sees that it is concentrated on his weaknesses some he did not even know he had...instantly devise correction, calculate his way out of the situation by defense, attack or whatever combination of approaches he deems necessary to break the entrapment, and attack and begin to dominate himself.

we have seen that so many times. kanhais reputation was built on such creativity. that is why he remains so loved in the westindies. he overcame and set new standards.

that is the measurement of greatness. there is nutten subjective about it! ask CLR James! I have a direct line....

I see you are on a roll today....

Didn't Gavaskar combat the fearsome foursome pace attack? Wasn't he the one that inspired the song "Gavaskar" by Lord Relator?

It was Gavaskar
We real master
Just like a wall
We couldn't out Gavaskar at all, not at all
You know the West Indies couldn't out Gavaskar at all

see the full song here